bigdamnhero Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Loki is consistently wicked and deceptive, I'm not super fond of emo Loki the whiny boy who has the sadz Odin doesn't love him best. In the old comics, maybe. Personally I'm much more fond of Mythological Loki, the Trickster, who's always causing trouble of one kind or another, but isn't necessarily evil per se. Most days, anyway. The idea of Loki as a shifting, unpredictable force of chaos is much more interesting to me than any 2D Villain-For-Villainy's-Sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted September 26, 2017 Report Share Posted September 26, 2017 Mythological Loki, the Trickster, who's always causing trouble of one kind or another, but isn't necessarily evil per se. He was alternating between a sneaky rascal and horrifically treasonous and evil. There's a reason Odin sentenced him to be hung under a serpent dripping venom into his eyeballs for eternity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrinku Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Current Marvel Loki has come around a bit it appears, having even had a bit of a heroic phase after being dead for a bit, though since everyone in Asgard still remembered what he'd been like no one believed it. I liked his appearance in Unstoppable Squirrel Girl. The situation was his fault, but turned out to be an old scheme he'd set up centuries ago and lost track of. He helps them fix it, though all through his scenes he's mocking Formerly-Thor Odinson (while being quite nice to New-Thor) and snarking nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 You mean Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdamnhero Posted September 27, 2017 Report Share Posted September 27, 2017 Loki's appearances in Ms. Marvel have been awesome too. Very much the God Of Mischief. Or as he's known at Kamala's High School "Hipster Viking Dude." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrinku Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 You mean Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, yes? Oops. Yes, of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Regardless of what superlative you put in front of it, I am very much looking forward to seeing Milana Vayntrub play Squirrel Girl. It warms me in mah nethers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 How about "overrated"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 "Poorly drawn" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Marvel’s Last Infinity Stone is Hiding in Plain Sight http://screenrant.com/infinity-soul-stone-thor-odin-theory-mcu/ Odin/Bor took it from Hela, we know it as "The Odinforce" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Okay. I just saw Inhumans on the TV . The FX were clearly strained, but I enjoyed it, and the guy playing Black Bolt did a lot of good emoting to substitute for a lack of banter. Also, Lockjaw is hugable. Is this great television? No. was it fun for me? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted September 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 That's all that matters, fun TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Tell that to the family in Poltergeist... Lawnmower Boy, Hermit, Lord Liaden and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I agree with Hermit. Maybe my expectations were just way, way low due to all the bad press, but what I saw easily exceeded those expectations. I felt the first hour was better than the second, but aside from the low-budget fx, I thought the show was quite engaging. Now granted, I have not read any of the Inhumans comics, so I don't have a basis for comparison upon which to base any criticism. But what I saw was a decent entry in the television side of the MCU. I do sort of feel it had more of a CW level of quality to it, but it wasn't nearly as bad as all the early reviews made it out to be. Of course, I only saw the first two hours. Most of the critics got to see at least the first four, and so maybe it gets progressively worse as it goes, but I'm at least hoping it'll be about as good as the third season of Agents of SHIELD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I thought it was pretty decent, definitely not the train wreck early reviews made it out to be.. Some of the window dressing and CGI seemed a little TV budgety, but . . . it's a TV budget, so whatever. It didn't detract from the show. The acting was good. The writing was mostly good. My gripe list is short. I won't even list them, since they didn't really detract from the show either. I think the biggest mistake Marvel made was releasing it in the theater, setting expectations of Marvel movie quality levels for things like CGI and sets, etc. That really seemed to trigger some of the reviewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I thought that the first two episodes were okay. Right now I find myself seeing Maximus, if not as a good guy, at least as a lesser evil compared to the rest of the royal family. Kudos to the writers for putting enough depth into it make that possible. Still, I suspect that it will be a be a problem latter when I am expected to root for the royal family, or Maximus has his kick the kitten moment and I feel let down by a show that was complicated becoming simplistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 Maximus didn't kick a kitten, but he offed the leader of the genetic council without a second thought, and seemed to enjoy it. He's showing some restraint, but I think they're doing a good job of showing the cracks starting to form. I'm expecting a kitty genocide at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 I think they did a moderate job of making it difficult to completely side either way. Maximus has a valid point of view, and his outward intentions appear honorable, but his methods are decidedly ruthless and Machiavellian, to say the least. That makes it difficult to really trust him, or even cheer him on. As viewers, we're also privy to his deep-seated insecurities regarding not having any powers and being "merely human," which makes all too apparent the petty, impetuous neuroses that fuels his personal crusade. That's not the sort of character you're expected to find particularly appealing; in fact, it is frequently the basis for villains. Besides, the rest of the royal family is so darn pretty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 I think they definitely did a good job of giving him a motive, especially considering some of the prejudice the royals casually show toward the lower, "human," caste. Gorgon's casual jabs at the beginning, and Crystal's remarks said in anger. If Maximus wasn't a sociopath/bat-guano crazy*, he'd be very sympathetic and probably on the right side of things. I think we're going to see a lot of "doing the wrong things for the right reasons" until Maximus's restraint gives and he does something atrocious. Or not. It'd be cool if they surprised us. Overall, I thought it was a pretty satisfying setup for the series. *This could well be colored by knowledge of his comic incarnation, and he's actually just angry and very, very Machiavellian. Which would probably be more interesting, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Maximus didn't kick a kitten, You're lion. ( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 How dare you misquote me! You replaced my comma with a period! Good DAY, sir! Hyper-Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 How dare you misquote me! You replaced my comma with a period! Good DAY, sir! Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Fixed. Objection withdrawn, you are truly a man of honor. Carry on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted October 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Watched Inhumans. Don't find Maximus's motivation for treason compelling. I am impressed with Black Bolt's actor, and Crystal's actress proves again that Aussies are the best superheroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Do you mean his stated motives or his implied motives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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