megaplayboy Posted May 10, 2017 Report Share Posted May 10, 2017 Clapper said he wasn't briefed on the FBI investigation. So at the time he said he had seen no evidence, he hadn't been aware of what the FBI had. There goes that talking point. This isn't about rationalizing Clintons loss. This is about whether or not there was a quid pro quo arrangement between the sitting president and one of the country's greatest adversaries. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 And also if the POTUS directly interfered into an active investigation of criminal activity within his administration by firing the investigation's lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 And also if the POTUS directly interfered into an active investigation of criminal activity within his administration by firing the investigation's lead. Nixon tried that trick in the early days of the Watergate investigations, wanting to fire the Special Prosecutor and in the process firing the people who told him they weren't going to fire the Special Prosecutor. It didn't work him, but if he had Fox News at his disposal it might have. Nixon tried and failed to create a television network specifically to slant the news towards the right. It was an impossible feat in the days before ubiquitous cable. Now, Trump does in fact have a corproate Minitrue at his disposal. Theorteically he can get away with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 A former deputy National Security Adviser asks a question on Twitter and receives an answer from a former deputy director of the CIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Sean Spicer is next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 https://youtu.be/68ELQd2Ojac This is worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Apparently, today is Search Warrant Day for the investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 I thought it was National Early Onset Dementia Awareness Day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 The thing about Trump Administration scandals is that the man pushes forward so quickly that they just don' t have time to stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 That was really gracious of Trump to confess to obstruction of justice on national television while being interviewed by Lester Holt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Yeah, what in the actual @$#! was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 It sounded like a confession to me. Corroborated by the acting press secretary, in fact. Hey Mega, what's the going federal penalty for obstruction of justice? Can you also look up the penalty for violating the emoluments clause? And bribery, and treason? Thanks! Iuz the Evil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tonight's paper: The political cartoon Donkey: "I was for the firing of Comey, before I was against it." Sociotard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 It sounded like a confession to me. Corroborated by the acting press secretary, in fact. Hey Mega, what's the going federal penalty for obstruction of justice? Can you also look up the penalty for violating the emoluments clause? And bribery, and treason? Thanks! I think the penalty is getting a medal, nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 It sounded like a confession to me. Corroborated by the acting press secretary, in fact. Hey Mega, what's the going federal penalty for obstruction of justice? Can you also look up the penalty for violating the emoluments clause? And bribery, and treason? Thanks! Obstruction, 20 years. Seditious conspiracy, 20 years. Bribery, 15 years. Money laundering, 20 years Violation of emoluments, no criminal penalties, but it is considered valid grounds for impeachment You're welcome. wcw43921 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Ooh, I'd forgotten about the money laundering. So many crimes, it's hard to keep them all straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-threat/index.html More Presidential every day. If the President in question is Nixon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 The thing about Trump Administration scandals is that the man pushes forward so quickly that they just don' t have time to stick. It's been working so far - at least with his base. Hopefully we're getting to the point where people who haven't forgotten are in a position to make that past catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/donald-trump-james-comey-threat/index.html More Presidential every day. If the President in question is Nixon. Isn't that Tweet a blackmail threat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 And witness intimidation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Who should run the FBI? Sen. Mike Lee suggests Merrick Garland, the man Republicans refused to consider for the Supreme Court One of my state's Senators, ladies and gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Tonight's paper: The political cartoon Donkey: "I was for the firing of Comey, before I was against it." Circumstances changed. Comey, who did not seem to realize the (possibly unintended) role he played in placing Donald Trump in office, saw evidence of a possible criminal series if events and decided to push forward into looking into it, not realizing how little gratitude Donald Trump was willing to show. Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen, this is what happens when you elect a President who used to pitch cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I found two pieces to be insightful on the situation: Don't look for deep Machiavellian plots behind Trumps Firing of the FBI director; he just isn't that complicated. Attention, liberals: Comey deserved to be fired, and the Constitution is just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Pardon me for bowing out of this thread. Talking about the escalating freak show in Washington is depressing me too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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