Cygnia Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 2nd Customs and Border Protection-connected secret Facebook group shows mocking images Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Pariah said: So . . . didn't we just have a holiday to celebrate the fact that we don't have a king? I'm confused. the holiday was to celebrate not having a FOREIGN king Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, dmjalund said: the holiday was to celebrate not having a FOREIGN king Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 4 hours ago, DShomshak said: My high school social studies teacher might have offered another suggestion: Ceremonial monarch. He thought Ronald Reagan was pretty bad as president, but thought he would have made a great figurehead king to make vapid speeches about how great the country is, have photo ops with foreign dignitaries, open sessions of Congress and new shopping malls, stuff like that. Do the emotional, ritual stuff while boring professional people do the work of government. He thought it unfortunate that the US combined the roles of Head of State and Head of Government. King Donald could do the important work of making simple white folk think Someone Who Gets Them is in charge, telling them how great they are for being Americans, while wielding no real power. Except that a major part of a ceremonial monarch's function is to make nice with foreign dignitaries, say all the right things at public events, and the like. Donald Trump is an uncouth boor who doesn't know when to shut up. Also consider that Trump publicly saying just those things appears to be a significant factor in stirring up social unrest in America today. That would not go away just because he lacks the power to act on those expressed feelings. And a lot of what he's tried to do practically along those lines has been blocked by the courts anyway. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Like Donald Trump is going to let a little detail like the Supreme Court stop him. He's already trying to figure out how to get the citizenship question on the census, even with the Court's decision last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 hours ago, DShomshak said: Darn it, I knew my local public radio station was airing it at 8 but I got distracted and forgot to tune in. Maybe I can listen to it online next time I get to the library. Did they do a new version of "76 Unknowns"? It's never been more appropriate. Dean Shomshak Yes, they did. As well as a new version of "The Hardest Rhyme" (with Pete Buttigieg as the hardest rhyme). Lots of fun, though I noticed that the audience was very skewed toward the older side. Like, about 50% were older than me, and I'm 55. At a guess, I'd say there were less than a dozen there under 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Gotta love the fact that Evangelicals want Trump around when he broke one of their god's Top 10 No-Nos (Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery). Someone also needs to tell these people that our First Amendment trumps (ha ha) their First Commandment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Pariah said: Like Donald Trump is going to let a little detail like the Supreme Court stop him. He's already trying to figure out how to get the citizenship question on the census, even with the Court's decision last week. Remember, during his campaign, he said he was going to abolish the Supreme Court? That was another one of those moments where I couldn't believe that wasn't the end of it. In any sane country, demonstrating knowledge that poor of civics and the concept of checks and balances would have been shooting yourself in the foot. Here in Rednekistan, it was a fekting selling point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 10 hours ago, CrosshairCollie said: Remember, during his campaign, he said he was going to abolish the Supreme Court? That was another one of those moments where I couldn't believe that wasn't the end of it. In any sane country, demonstrating knowledge that poor of civics and the concept of checks and balances would have been shooting yourself in the foot. Here in Rednekistan, it was a fekting selling point. This is the world they wanted, the world they created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkness Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 I know this has already been posted, but his mouth said there were airports in the revolutionary war, and his brain didn't catch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 His brain isn't good at grasping in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: His brain isn't good at grasping in general. Unfortunately, his hands more than make up for that fact... pinecone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkness Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 A book I just read prompted by the discussion of the earlier comparison of St. Louis and a drastically different city in this thread. It is actually a book about how the federal efforts to promote the home building sector and increase homeowndership from WWI through the New Deal until the beginning of the 1970s, explicitly required that public housing projects needed to be for whites only if they were going to receive the backing and interest rates offered in such programs, and how this and other policies by federal and state governments further ensured that African-American housing would become increasingly segregated by race, increasingly costly in comparison to equivalent housing for whites, and increasingly insecure as a result of this.https://www.epi.org/publication/the-color-of-law-a-forgotten-history-of-how-our-government-segregated-america/ This included a clause prohibiting resale to African=American. Considering that the majority of the middle class in America would owe much of their success, and the bulk of their equity, to these programs, and a whole race of people were denied this, is just criminal. Oh, and African-American vets got screwed, too. They were more likely to be dishonourably discharged from military branches, and it's statistically certain that a great many cases would have been racism, and given that they often were denied their benefits for buying a home even if not dishonourably discharged, as well as not being paid as much as their white counterparts. And this is through to the early seventies. It was a direct extension of Jim Crow at the federal level, involving the largest potential investment most Americans would individually make in their lives. Lord Liaden, TrickstaPriest and Old Man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosshairCollie Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 And that systemic, institutionalized racism is still taking place today. TheDarkness and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 If anyone was wondering where you can visit an honest to God concentration camp in 2019 America, here's a helpful link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkness Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 8 hours ago, CrosshairCollie said: And that systemic, institutionalized racism is still taking place today. A major part of the book is that that form of institutionalized and de jure discrimination was not ended until after such programs were already largely played out, and that we still are under the massive influence of that institutional racism's effect. Stopping things like discriminatory hiring practices and ending discriminatory housing practices are drastically different acts. The first can actually end the influence quite quickly, if it is implemented effectively. Ending disciminatory housing practices after they have been in place does nothing to change the resulting forced segregation of people. The fact that it was ruled unconstitutional before the bulk of the practice took place, and that the states and the federal governments bent over backwards to ignore the constitutional question until the practice was no longer needed to maintain the forced segregation of people is telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 But we had a black president, so that means racism is over, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 L. Marcus, Cygnia, Hatut Zeraze and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Is noone covering the less than glowing report from Britain's Ambassador in Washington about the Trump Presidency to the UK Government?? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7220335/Britains-man-says-Trump-inept-Cables-ambassador-say-dysfunctional.html I would not normally post a link to the Daily Mail as it is a horrid little paper whose editorial content is driven by "Who do we hate, why do we hate them, what should we fear" but this is a story they broke... Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 In my defense, I've got the mod that changes any links from the Daily Fail to kitten pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Doc Democracy said: Is noone covering the less than glowing report from Britain's Ambassador in Washington about the Trump Presidency to the UK Government?? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7220335/Britains-man-says-Trump-inept-Cables-ambassador-say-dysfunctional.html I would not normally post a link to the Daily Mail as it is a horrid little paper whose editorial content is driven by "Who do we hate, why do we hate them, what should we fear" but this is a story they broke... Doc NBC News website had a story about it this morning. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-k-officials-scramble-top-diplomat-u-s-blasts-trump-n1027286 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Honestly, the only thing notable about the story is that it became public. Anyone who's been paying attention to what Trump actually says and does has known all that for years. Every leak we've gotten regarding private remarks from Republican politicians and White House officials say they know it too. My reaction to the story was, "Thanks, Captain Obvious." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Democracy Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Well, obviously the story is about the leak rather than the assessment. It is nonetheless interesting that such assessment is being made in Westminster, that the Prime Minister has said she does not agree with it BUT has said she has every confidence in the Ambassador. 🙂 Some difficult conversations being had in London and Washington today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 57 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: My reaction to the story was, "Thanks, Captain Obvious." You get that advert too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Yes, I do. But actually, "Captain Obvious" has been a meme for many years, long before those commercials gave it a face. "Thanks, Captain Obvious," is a sarcastic comeback to someone who states something so apparent it's not worth mentioning. It's up there with, "No sh!t, Sherlock." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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