death tribble Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 People also forget that Batman's parents were murdered. If he killed the Joker or any of the others of his Rogue's Gallery what difference would there be between him and the crooks ? Also if he killed The Joker why should he then not kill a persistent offender who is not a killer like say The Riddler ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 In the 1989 Tim Burton film, Batman did kill the Joker. And throughout that continuity of films the Joker stayed dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 ... If he killed the Joker or any of the others of his Rogue's Gallery what difference would there be between him and the crooks ? ... This is a completely bogus argument made for after school specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 If he killed the Joker or any of the others of his Rogue's Gallery what difference would there be between him and the crooks ? The difference would be that killing in self-defense, or in defense of an innocent third party, is generally recognized as ethically acceptable, and is perfectly legal. The complicating factors, of course, are that 1) it has to be done while the would-be killer poses a clear and present danger to life or limb, and 2) it's ethically (and possibly legally) fuzzy to use lethal force to save a life IF you've got a non-lethal takedown that would work just as well, and Batman has a lot of ways to do that. gewing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 It's also against the most important rule: Don't kill off recurring characters if there's still money to be made off of them. Pariah and Matt the Bruins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 The difference would be that killing in self-defense, or in defense of an innocent third party, is generally recognized as ethically acceptable, and is perfectly legal. The complicating factors, of course, are that 1) it has to be done while the would-be killer poses a clear and present danger to life or limb, and 2) it's ethically (and possibly legally) fuzzy to use lethal force to save a life IF you've got a non-lethal takedown that would work just as well, and Batman has a lot of ways to do that. Yep, though it differs by juristriction, he could trick Joker into fighting him in Florida, and stand his ground? Logan D. Hurricanes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Or lure the Joker to Ferguson, Missouri and distract him long enough for the cops to shoot him in the back a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Or lure the Joker to Ferguson, Missouri and distract him long enough for the cops to shoot him in the back a few times. Won't work. You just don't get much whiter than the Joker. Old Man, Matt the Bruins and Cancer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 D'oh! Foiled again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Man Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 KC FLCS Owner Slain in Robbery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Stan Lee Becomes Highest Grossing Actor of All Time Bazza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Yep, though it differs by juristriction, he could trick Joker into fighting him in Florida, and stand his ground? I had a mild argument with some of my young coworkers who are of the The Joker Is Awesome Club. My position is that almost anyone who saw the Joker approaching them would have grounds to feel that their life was in imminent threat of being ended. Therefore they could justifiably shoot the Joker in self-defense. But the writers don't think that would make a good story. Actually I think I might be a really good story as the news media and everyone else in Gotham had to discuss the fact that "the Joker was killed by a normal citizen, why have we let him terrorize us for so long?" I'll have the police not managed to shoot him? ( his fans argue to me that the Joker is a master at close combat and that's why he's managed to survive) the reactions of different people especially Batman, Commissioner Gordon and some of the other regular characters to the death of the Joker would be a fascinating story Sociotard and pinecone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 KC FLCS Owner Slain in Robbery damn that stinks. I wish he had been wiser than to pursue the thief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 On the lighter side... How Nice Countries Fight. That's how you settle a "spirited" dispute. Cygnia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 This is a completely bogus argument made for after school specials. The Batman believes in due process. And if the police can't shoot someone down who is a continual offender the neither can he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 The Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) are withdrawing from the Boy Scouts -- more specifically the youth program for Ages 14-17. Wards (the main congregations in the church) will no longer organize or host troops. Since about one-sixth of Scouts in the United States are Mormon, this is a very big deal on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 The Batman believes in due process. And if the police can't shoot someone down who is a continual offender the neither can he. That is a completely different argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Oh really ? Which part ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan D. Hurricanes Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 The first argument you made was killing the mass murderer would make him no better than the mass murderer. Now you're saying he doesn't kill because he believes in the court system. These are completely different motivations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 The first argument you made was killing the mass murderer would make him no better than the mass murderer. Now you're saying he doesn't kill because he believes in the court system. These are completely different motivations. Not really. "I believe in due process because taking the law into my own hands makes me no better than the criminal." There ya go, one statement encapsulating both concepts. The argument is that it's better for society to let the group handle justice than to mete it out individually. That's a single motivation. death tribble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 KC FLCS Owner Slain in Robbery Died after a robbery. He'd be alive if he wasn't stupid enough to try to do a job he wasn't qualified for and didn't have the tools to perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Portugal win the Eurovision Song Contest for the first time ever. https://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ezwmzc/live/c3rnc8 Enforcer84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I had a mild argument with some of my young coworkers who are of the The Joker Is Awesome Club. My position is that almost anyone who saw the Joker approaching them would have grounds to feel that their life was in imminent threat of being ended. Therefore they could justifiably shoot the Joker in self-defense. But the writers don't think that would make a good story. Actually I think I might be a really good story as the news media and everyone else in Gotham had to discuss the fact that "the Joker was killed by a normal citizen, why have we let him terrorize us for so long?" I'll have the police not managed to shoot him? ( his fans argue to me that the Joker is a master at close combat and that's why he's managed to survive) the reactions of different people especially Batman, Commissioner Gordon and some of the other regular characters to the death of the Joker would be a fascinating story The Joker Is Awesome Club? Are they the same ones who think him and Harley have the "ideal" relationship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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