megaplayboy Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I'm on partially subsidized insurance, don't have employer based coverage and have pre-existing conditions. I know I'm getting screwed. It's just a question of when and by how much. Iuz the Evil and Sociotard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 "Like this" is the wrong sentiment, but dang, way to put a face on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 I'm on partially subsidized insurance, don't have employer based coverage and have pre-existing conditions. I know I'm getting screwed. It's just a question of when and by how much. Unfortunately, I can't "like" your comment for another 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Am I the only one who has an immense feeling of schadenfreude? I am a very evil person. Nope, not the only one. They're going to get what they voted for. Let 'em deal with it. But I have much sympathy for all the non-Trump folks who will be getting screwed at the same time. Andrew_A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Am I the only one who has an immense feeling of schadenfreude? I am a very evil person. I would be one as well, but in the end it's going to drive up health care costs for all of us. As it is the employer-provided insurance options at my work are so outrageously expensive that I was going to have to go over to Obamacare next year anyway. Netzilla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lectryk Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 ..... that I was going to have to go over to Obamacare next year anyway. You won't have to worry about that pesky Obamacare stuff, now, though. Just how you'll be spending all that money that was going to preventative health care. That's what hospitals are for, right? Catastrophic medical care for free? On to non sarcastic matters - Along with Sociotard's post up thread: http://www.gallup.com/poll/199352/trump-transition-approval-lower-predecessors.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Okay, I really AM an evil person. Sorry. (NSFW. Mild swearing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 I would be one as well, but in the end it's going to drive up health care costs for all of us. As it is the employer-provided insurance options at my work are so outrageously expensive that I was going to have to go over to Obamacare next year anyway. Please excuse my ignorance (not being an American and all that) but WHY are your employer-provided options for health insurance so expensive ? Wouldn't the firm you work for want to keep its employees healthy, at an affordable price ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Please excuse my ignorance (not being an American and all that) but WHY are your employer-provided options for health insurance so expensive ? Wouldn't the firm you work for want to keep its employees healthy, at an affordable price ? Small company == no leverage with the insurance providers. Providers that know my employer must provide health plans to its employees. Really the entire for-profit healthcare industry needs to be beaten to death with a barbed-wire-wrapped baseball bat. But I digress. aylwin13, Netzilla and womble 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Thank you for the explanation. Ever since watching Michael Moore's "Sicko" I have thought that the U S for profit health care industry was spectacularly unpleasant. Even assuming that Moore was indulging in hyperbole it sounded appalling. Trump says that he will replace Obamacare with "something better", the question is, will the healthcare lobbyists LET him ? (assuming that he was being serious when he said that of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 The HR department at the company that I work for organizes various health, exercise, and nutrition related activities throughout the year. The more you participate in, the higher your insurance tier, and the less gets deducted from your paycheck for insurance the next year. Healthier employees = less insurance use = lower insurance cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Which reminds me I've got some Paulaner I haven't been drinking due to the amount of time I spend working... (And reading political rantings) (I'm also tired enough not to notice how far up thread the comments I was responding to were and didn't think to snag the appropriate quotes - bed is calling so I can go back to work) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Hm. What's Paulaner like? (Get some rest, man) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Obama holding a press conference tomorrow. David Yankovich @DavidYankovich CNN is reporting that Trump's refusal to acknowledge Russia interference has made White House decide orderly transition isn't main priority 7:38 PM - 15 Dec 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Okay, I really AM an evil person. Sorry. (NSFW. Mild swearing.) Good, I don't have to attempt to have any respect for that pile of filth leading up Daily Kos, evidently a victim of "He Who Fights Monsters". WHo the guy in the video anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Obama holding a press conference tomorrow. David Yankovich @DavidYankovich CNN is reporting that Trump's refusal to acknowledge Russia interference has made White House decide orderly transition isn't main priority 7:38 PM - 15 Dec 2016 Trump also held a press conference today, only he didn't, because he chickened out. Buck-buck-braaawck, ladies and gentlemen, the president-elect of the United States. wcw43921, DasBroot and Twilight 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 KFC-In-Chief? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted December 16, 2016 Report Share Posted December 16, 2016 Clinton blames hacking, FBI letter release for her loss http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38347684 I wish she hadn't. Not that I'm a large supporter (Kasich was my pick) but why open yourself up to sour grapes claims now? Enough people were doing it on her behalf. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Intelligence community (including FBI) agrees Russia tampered with US elections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I wonder how long Trump can maintain denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Four years, one month, four days. Give or take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The USA Today reported Trump has been dealing with Russians for decades in his real estate business. Most of them are friends with Putin. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Well, if nothing else at least you can always count on the Russians to respond predictably to all this. Same response as any other claim by a foreign power: "Prove it, or shut up about it. I wonder if any other president (let alone president-elect) has ever been so openly skeptical or even nearly hostile towards a core part of his countries national security infrastructure? It must be nice to know better than a few billion dollars worth of operatives, informants, and data analysts. womble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Well, if nothing else at least you can always count on the Russians to respond predictably to all this. Same response as any other claim by a foreign power: "Prove it, or shut up about it. I wonder if any other president (let alone president-elect) has ever been so openly skeptical or even nearly hostile towards a core part of his countries national security infrastructure? It must be nice to know better than a few billion dollars worth of operatives, informants, and data analysts. Of course he knows better: his good friend Vladimir assures him it's not true. And it not being so is better for him, which means that, given the world is arranged entirely to suit him and his fancies, it definitely isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted December 19, 2016 Report Share Posted December 19, 2016 Clinton blames hacking, FBI letter release for her loss http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38347684 I wish she hadn't. Not that I'm a large supporter (Kasich was my pick) but why open yourself up to sour grapes claims now? Enough people were doing it on her behalf. Oh well. Actually Kasich was who I was going for too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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