Lord Liaden Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: I am compelled to add Alex Jones to the list. Sometimes size doesn't matter. That much hot air and gas would probably make for a lower ship's mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: That much hot air and gas would probably make for a lower ship's mass. He's pure fluorine. Not on my ship, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Happy! Happy! Katie Hobbs Defeats Kari Lake To Become Governor Of Arizona tkdguy, Lawnmower Boy, unclevlad and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Man Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, unclevlad said: He's pure fluorine. Not on my ship, thank you. I have an airlock and I’m not afraid to use it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Ranxerox said: Happy! Happy! Katie Hobbs Defeats Kari Lake To Become Governor Of Arizona A Trump endorsement, an election denier. Same as Blake Masters. Think it was LL that wanted some numbers?https://www.politico.com/2022-election/results/trump-candidates-endorsements-11-8-22/ Not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Thanks, Uncle. Trump's endorsement numbers in Congress overall look pretty good on paper, because he mostly endorsed incumbents and safe seats (which of course he'll still take credit for). But where he pushed for election-denying nutjobs, he didn't do so well. Aides who have to deal with him claim he's been raging over that midterm result, and blaming everyone for giving him bad advice, while naturally accepting no blame himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 13 hours ago, Ranxerox said: Happy! Happy! Katie Hobbs Defeats Kari Lake To Become Governor Of Arizona Quote Lake did not acknowledge Hobbs’ victory, instead tweeting, “Arizonans know BS when they see it.” I dunno. That sounds like a pretty accurate acknowledgement of Hobbs' victory (or more specifically, Arizonans' view of Lake) to me. Tom Cowan, Pariah and Lord Liaden 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Meanwhile.. over in Ukraine... https://www.npr.org/2022/11/15/1136768133/kyiv-ukraine-missiles-russia Zelensky addressed the G20 as the G19, then mixed in a sprinkle of what I believe means 'We warned you guys this would happen' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 It gets worse, Hermit... US official: Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2 Pattern Ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Oh *bleep*: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine 2 dead in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hermit Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: Oh *bleep*: Russian missiles cross into Poland during strike on Ukraine 2 dead in Poland. Holy SNOT Of all the countries, the Ruskies landed missiles in Poland, which has been Ukraine's biggest advocate (And warning folks about Russia and Putin while other countries were like 'but we can change him'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Cygnia said: It gets worse, Hermit... US official: Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2 Worse is the right word. I am not eager to start WW3, but complete inaction or lack of response sounds like a mistake too. I think the best bet is for NATO to close the air space over the Urkaine and use this as justification to do it then hope Russia gets 'the hint'. But I am not a tactician, a politician, or an expert on global politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 On today's issue of The Daily radio show, the subject is Trump's expected declaration later today that he's running for president in 2024. The reporter delivering analysis called Trump running for president the Hotel California of American politics: You can try to check out, but you can never leave because it just goes on and on. As for the Russian missiles hitting Poland, the BBC reporting and analysis suggests this was likely an accident. There's no strategic logic to bombing a farm on the border of Ukraine, and many reasons not to do so. Either Russian targeting sucks (plausible), or a missile was knocked off course by an antimissile attack. However, Poland has invoked the NATO charter for consultation (not yet for counterattack). The Russian government, of course, insists the whole thing is a NATO hoax. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Cygnia said: It gets worse, Hermit... US official: Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2 How did I not see this before I posted the same thing? 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 For the same reason the guys accepted the explanation that 'These are the not the droids you are looking for' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: How did I not see this before I posted the same thing? 🤦♂️ I missed it the first time too. Sorry, Cygnia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 *facepalms about Putin* https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-63593855 Quote Russia denies any involvement in 'missile strike on Poland' Russia has denied statements from Polish media outlets and officials that Russian missiles fell on the Polish village of Przewodó near the Ukrainian border. The Russian ministry of defence posted on its Telegram, calling the reports "a deliberate provocation in order to escalate the situation". "No strikes were made against targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border by Russian means of destruction," the statement said.It said missile fragments from the scene, reportedly filmed by Polish media, did not relate to Russian weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 We didn't do it. If we did do it, you made us do it. If you didn't make us do it, you were asking for it anyway and the ever popular, by pointing out we did it, you're the jerky mcjerk face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/poland-considering-nato-article-4-activation-says-spokesman-2022-11-15/ Poland invoking article 4 is a very measured response. They hate Russia with the white hot passion of a thousand suns. Lord Liaden and Hermit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 As I said, I find it plausible that the strike was an accident. OTOH Putin must not be allowed to think he can make this the start of a nose-in-the-tent strategy. There must be consequences. But I do not envy the people who must decide what those consequences should be. Dean Shomshak Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Lake losing is great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) There is a nonzero chance that what landed in Poland is a Ukranian air defense missile fired to intercept a russian cruise missile that missed. Complicating matters is the fact that Ukraine employs a number of anti aircraft missiles manufactured by russia, so figuring out whose fault it was is going to be extremely tricky. Complicating things even further, russians have been resorting to using anti aircraft missiles (S300s for example) in land attack missions due to lack of supplies of higher grade cruise missiles. So figuring out exactly what happened is going to be tricky. Hopefully somebody has satellite or radar tracking data that can be checked to figure out where these missiles came from. Also, there are fires burning in Belgorod Oblast, apparently due to a misfiring russian missile(s) that failed to go where they were aimed and came down in russian territory. This is not the first time this has happened there. Edited November 16, 2022 by BNakagawa TrickstaPriest and DShomshak 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 You haven't lived until you see a missile do a HARD!!! slice and plow down into the ground maybe half a mile away from the launcher. Cut my day short, tho. Wasn't much I had to do in the aftermath; the data I had to process, wasn't significant under the circumstances. And of course, there wasn't very much *of* it anyway. Yeah, these things do happen...and I rather suspect our missiles are in rather better technical shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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