Ragitsu Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Damn...Fauci got whipped by Trump. Kudos to the doctor for taking a bullet so he can stay in place to help the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 It infuriates me that the media keep characterizing the doctor's measured, honest but diplomatic responses to questions as "crushing," "destroying," or other extreme verbs, Donald Trump and his positions. They want dramatic headlines to draw attention, but that's all that Trump reads and responds to. It's disingenuous, and it's undermining the only credible and competent helmsman the United States has in this crisis. 😠 massey, Joe Walsh, Pariah and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: It infuriates me that the media keep characterizing the doctor's measured, honest but diplomatic responses to questions as "crushing," "destroying," or other extreme verbs, Donald Trump and his positions. They want dramatic headlines to draw attention, but that's all that Trump reads and responds to. It's disingenuous, and it's undermining the only credible and competent helmsman the United States has in this crisis. 😠 They want to humiliate Trump, whatever cost is worth it to them. (especially if the harm is to someone else) THis is also part of why Trump will probably win. Whatever the majority feels about Trump, they might be more tired of that kind of pettiness, than they are of Trump's. Starlord and massey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: It infuriates me that the media keep characterizing the doctor's measured, honest but diplomatic responses to questions as "crushing," "destroying," or other extreme verbs, Donald Trump and his positions. They want dramatic headlines to draw attention, but that's all that Trump reads and responds to. It's disingenuous, and it's undermining the only credible and competent helmsman the United States has in this crisis. 😠 You can chalk this up partly to generic U.S.A. media sensationalism, but this sort of framing is also becoming acceptable thanks to Trump's Fisher King powers. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ragitsu said: You can chalk this up partly to generic U.S.A. media sensationalism, but this sort of framing is also becoming acceptable thanks to Trump's Fisher King powers. Yeah, it is both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Badger said: Yeah, it is both sides. Near as I can tell only one side is actively risking American lives through blatant corruption and incompetence. But it's true that we should avoid hurting anyone's feelings too. Matt the Bruins, Ragitsu, Zeropoint and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Dont care about anyone's feelings. Just more interested in solving the current crisis, than attacking Trump's windmill, at the moment. Apparently, the media doesn't seem to share that opinion. That's all I meant with my original post, (and the one you quoted is merely acknowledgement of Ragitsu's comment of the media sensationalism, and Trump's being a nitwit) Note: and if you are interested in whose windmills I will yell at when this is over: The Chinese govt, Trump, and the media's panic fomenting, in that order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 I don’t consider dead Americans a “windmill”, but opinions vary. Perhaps I missed the glaring evidence of the GOP’s heroic efforts to save lives during this crisis? I’m always open to new information. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 19 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of the party." Sanders didn't fall into line as soon as some Democrats wanted him to, particularly the party kingmakers. Seeing as how those same kingmakers aligned in opposition to his nomination, they should be grateful he came around at all. But this time Biden seems to have outpaced Bernie fair and square. And they sound like they have much less antipathy, and more willingness to cooperate, than Sanders did with Clinton. According to a story my local paper took off the wire, Sanders genuinely likes Biden, which is why he didn't really go after Biden very hard in the debates. The reason? Back when they were both in the Senate, Biden was nice to him. This is worth remembering if you're anguished about Biden not being progressive enough, or outraged that he once worked with conservative bigots instead of pointing a finger and thundering, "Evil!" Joe Biden seems to like everyone, and it seems to have left him with no real enemies. Right now, this may be important in uniting the Democratic party and coaxing independents to join in making Trump a one-term president. Dean Shomshak Lord Liaden, Cygnia, Matt the Bruins and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 pinecone, BoloOfEarth, Ragitsu and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Cygnia said: Hide contents Can you post this a second time so that I may also gift you with a "Sad" reaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Do "sad" reactions still count against the poster? I can't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Old Man said: Do "sad" reactions still count against the poster? I can't remember. They are neutral in nature. That is to say, they do not subtract from a member's "total reputation". TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Tom Cowan, Grailknight, Ragitsu and 2 others 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Duel of the Chyrons A good overview of how spin can be applied to the exact same event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 8:27 PM, Lord Liaden said: George Carlin used to be one of my favorite comedians. His earlier social commentary was seasoned with wry humor and clever whimsy; but as he got older he became increasingly bitter and nasty. I'm not saying he didn't have cause, and ripping fools and reprobates a new one is a valid activity; but IMO it doesn't belong on an entertainer's stage. What I always remember now is his 1999 show "You Are All Diseased". During a rant about how people have become too obsessed with being safe and have forgotten that danger is fun, he said that he was looking forward to terrorists attacking the US and would consider it exciting entertainment. But that's off-topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 When are the "big government is The Devil" conservatives going to push back en masse against Trump's barely concealed authoritarian posturing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ragitsu said: When are the "big government is The Devil" conservatives going to push back en masse against Trump's barely concealed authoritarian posturing? Never, because Trump is on their side. And besides, can you imagine how much worse this all would have been if Hillary Clinton had been the President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 ...and the President is cutting off funding to the World Health Organization, blaming them for botching the response to the COVID-19 outbreak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 14, 2020 Report Share Posted April 14, 2020 Sure, let's defund the organization coordinating world-wide health strategies while we're in the middle of a pandemic. I have no Trump-related vomit left to give. But Trump's just spouting off to look tough to his base toward the "foreigners," and to deflect blame from his own blunders. He'll probably walk that back soon, once aides he trusts explain to him all the things he should have thought of before opening his pie-hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 (Note that this graphic is about five days old.) Lawnmower Boy, Tom Cowan, Matt the Bruins and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 Stimulus Checks May Be Delayed Because Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted April 15, 2020 Report Share Posted April 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Old Man said: Stimulus Checks May Be Delayed Because Using a crisis as a means of campaigning? What a POS scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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