Jump to content
Bazza

Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase Three and BEYOOOOONND

Recommended Posts

So, let's assume Sony Spidey loses MCU, based on no further accommodations being reached.  What have they lost?

 

 - Happy Hogan.  OK, May needs a new boyfriend.  In the comics, she hooks up with JJJ, who has just been reintroduced, and way back when had an interest in a Doctor Otto Octavius.  Both developments could be interesting in the Sony Spiderverse.

 

 - Tony Stark.  OK, maybe we can tell stories about Spider-Man, instead of Spider-Suit and glasses linked to enough firepower to turn the planet into a cinder.  Maybe Peter can get an internship at a different big company.  Oscorp, perhaps?  Working with Dr. Curt Connors, perhaps?

 

 - The Blip.  The biggest impact the Blip really had on Far From Home was the need to explain it away, and please don't wonder about the amazing coincidence that the characters enjoying a significant role in Homecoming got blipped out.  Liz Allen probably didn't, along with anyone else who had no role in Far From Home.  I guess we will have to use less plausible explanations for their absence, like families moving or students transferring schools.  Or we could just not mention them at all.

 

 - Miscellaneous - no more questions about why Spidey can't get help from Dr. Strange ("please erase my identity being revealed, Mr. Magic Man"), Thor, the Avengers in general or SHIELD (not that he knew how to contact Fury anyway) in his solo movies, but can't take the bus to school without bumping into them in MCU movies.  Also no awkward questions about why the world loves the Avengers  but is down on Spider-Man.

 

It doesn't seem like Sony has to lose a lot to just tell tales in the SpiderVerse.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The question becomes whether Jon Watts et al can carry the torch.  Given both FIege and Watts' involvement with Homecoming and Far From Home, it's tough to separate their influences (once we get past seeing a quality Spidey in Civil War, before Watts).  

 

Both Fiege and Holland are staying classy in addressing the issue, which is nice to see.  Hopefully no bad blood if future opportunities arise.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, Bazza said:

ETERNALS Cast Adds Kit Harington As The Black Knight & Barry Keoghan As Druig; Gemma Chan Is Sersi

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/eternals/eternals-cast-adds-kit-harington-as-the-black-knight-barry-keoghan-as-druig-gemma-chan-is-sersi-a170215

 

“The trio join an ensemble that will also feature Academy Award-winner Angelina Jolie as Thena, Richard Madden as Ikaris, Kumail Nanjiani as Kingo, Lauren Ridloff as Makkari, Brian Tyree Henry as Phastos, Salma Hayek as Ajak, Lia McHugh as Sprite and Don Lee as Gilgamesh.”

 

 

More gender-bending casting there, raising the distaff ratio significantly. I have no objection to that in principle, and it's probably a better reflection of contemporary times. But hang on for the anti-SJW outcries.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Assuming they maintain the "mistaken for the Greek gods" schtick the Eternals have in Marvel (or maybe they ARE the Greek Gods in MCU), some gender roles should be defined, but that's not a lot of the Eternals.  I'm not sure who Ajak was supposed to be in that model.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If for no other reason, this movie is going to give me a laugh when the ComicsGate types start whining about social justice warriors betraying the devoted Eternals fanbase by gender-flipping treasured characters like Ajak and Sprite, or making Kingo and the Forgotten One people of color.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

People will be yawning, not complaining.  Even die hard Comic Book geeks have a hard time naming even two Eternals.  Its a really, really obscure Marvel Comics subgroup.  Even with the Guardians of the Galaxy, comic fans would go "which incarnation?" but these guys...

 

I mean, its always fun to sneer at your political foes and presume the worst of them, its sort of the pass time of humanity since we started talking but these guys are not burning up anyone's "must see" list.  Its just Marvel's second attempt at an X-Men variant, since the Inhumans crashed and burned

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said:

Assuming they maintain the "mistaken for the Greek gods" schtick the Eternals have in Marvel (or maybe they ARE the Greek Gods in MCU), some gender roles should be defined, but that's not a lot of the Eternals.  I'm not sure who Ajak was supposed to be in that model.

 

Ajak is Russian and he is a Polar Eternal. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said:

People will be yawning, not complaining.  Even die hard Comic Book geeks have a hard time naming even two Eternals.  Its a really, really obscure Marvel Comics subgroup.  Even with the Guardians of the Galaxy, comic fans would go "which incarnation?" but these guys...

 

I mean, its always fun to sneer at your political foes and presume the worst of them, its sort of the pass time of humanity since we started talking but these guys are not burning up anyone's "must see" list.  Its just Marvel's second attempt at an X-Men variant, since the Inhumans crashed and burned

Ike Perlmutter wanted it since they couldn't do Xmen. When they got rid of him in the movie part of the CoC, the studio let Perlmutter do what he wants on the television side of things. We're not following his lead on anything. Perlmutter is the one guy who didn't want a black widow movie, or a panther movie.

CES  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The Inhumans, modeled from AoS, and from the comics a year or two earlier, being triggered in anyone at any time provides a convenient "common origin" for super powered opponents, replacing decades of Marvel "he's a mutant" origins.  The comics have used it as well.  It also provides powers emerging at ages other than adolescence, so greater flexibility there.

 

The Eternals aren't going to provide origin stories outside their own universe.

 

I don''t think Guardians of the Galaxy had any more public recognition when their movie was selected (despite being published) and a lot of comic grognards were still unhappy it wasn't Vance Astro and crew. 

 

The advantage of a property like the Eternals is that the source material isn't graven in stone, so it can be adapted a lot more to suit the movie genre from the comics in print genre.  The comics Guardians had to evolve closer to the movie when it succeeded so wildly.  Imagine if they had instead presented the Hulk like they presented Drax (he was not like that in any comics incarnation before the movie).  It worked for Drax because the viewers had no preconceptions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Hugh Neilson said:

...Drax (he was not like that in any comics incarnation before the movie)...

 

He was. According to Jim Starlin, film Drax is a combination of Infinity Watch "dumb" Drax and the current physicality of Drax first seen in Anniliation prequel mini series (Drax the Destroyer, 2005). Also IIRC, Starlin is happy with it. 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...