Bazza Posted August 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Stan Lee’s Daughter Co-Signs Spider-Man Deal, Says Disney and Marvel Gave Dad’s Legacy No ‘Respect or Decency’ https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2019/08/stan-lee-daughter-co-signs-spider-man-deal-disney-marvel-no-respect Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 10 Ways Crisis On Infinite Earths Can Be The Arrowverse's Endgame https://screenrant.com/arrowverse-season-finales-crisis-infinite-earths/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Marvel's Falcon and Winter Soldier bringing back Sharon Carter https://apple.news/ANfV9mHUBQ9W2Z6EZozJo3g Happy news for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 I agree with Stan's daughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 So, let's assume Sony Spidey loses MCU, based on no further accommodations being reached. What have they lost? - Happy Hogan. OK, May needs a new boyfriend. In the comics, she hooks up with JJJ, who has just been reintroduced, and way back when had an interest in a Doctor Otto Octavius. Both developments could be interesting in the Sony Spiderverse. - Tony Stark. OK, maybe we can tell stories about Spider-Man, instead of Spider-Suit and glasses linked to enough firepower to turn the planet into a cinder. Maybe Peter can get an internship at a different big company. Oscorp, perhaps? Working with Dr. Curt Connors, perhaps? - The Blip. The biggest impact the Blip really had on Far From Home was the need to explain it away, and please don't wonder about the amazing coincidence that the characters enjoying a significant role in Homecoming got blipped out. Liz Allen probably didn't, along with anyone else who had no role in Far From Home. I guess we will have to use less plausible explanations for their absence, like families moving or students transferring schools. Or we could just not mention them at all. - Miscellaneous - no more questions about why Spidey can't get help from Dr. Strange ("please erase my identity being revealed, Mr. Magic Man"), Thor, the Avengers in general or SHIELD (not that he knew how to contact Fury anyway) in his solo movies, but can't take the bus to school without bumping into them in MCU movies. Also no awkward questions about why the world loves the Avengers but is down on Spider-Man. It doesn't seem like Sony has to lose a lot to just tell tales in the SpiderVerse. drunkonduty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 The main thing Sony loses out on in the deal is Feige. Sony hasn’t exactly been cranking out excellent supers films lately. Hugh Neilson and slikmar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 The question becomes whether Jon Watts et al can carry the torch. Given both FIege and Watts' involvement with Homecoming and Far From Home, it's tough to separate their influences (once we get past seeing a quality Spidey in Civil War, before Watts). Both Fiege and Holland are staying classy in addressing the issue, which is nice to see. Hopefully no bad blood if future opportunities arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 hours ago, Bazza said: ETERNALS Cast Adds Kit Harington As The Black Knight & Barry Keoghan As Druig; Gemma Chan Is Sersi https://www.comicbookmovie.com/eternals/eternals-cast-adds-kit-harington-as-the-black-knight-barry-keoghan-as-druig-gemma-chan-is-sersi-a170215 “The trio join an ensemble that will also feature Academy Award-winner Angelina Jolie as Thena, Richard Madden as Ikaris, Kumail Nanjiani as Kingo, Lauren Ridloff as Makkari, Brian Tyree Henry as Phastos, Salma Hayek as Ajak, Lia McHugh as Sprite and Don Lee as Gilgamesh.” More gender-bending casting there, raising the distaff ratio significantly. I have no objection to that in principle, and it's probably a better reflection of contemporary times. But hang on for the anti-SJW outcries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: But hang on for the anti-SJW outcries. I have but two words in response to any anticipated outcries: Salma Hayak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Hey, let's not forget Gemma Chan as Sersi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Nobody is going to complain that a woman is playing a part nobody knows or cares about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Assuming they maintain the "mistaken for the Greek gods" schtick the Eternals have in Marvel (or maybe they ARE the Greek Gods in MCU), some gender roles should be defined, but that's not a lot of the Eternals. I'm not sure who Ajak was supposed to be in that model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 54 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Nobody is going to complain that a woman is playing a part nobody knows or cares about Clearly, you underestimate the Internet! assault, Lord Liaden, Lawnmower Boy and 1 other 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 The what now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 If for no other reason, this movie is going to give me a laugh when the ComicsGate types start whining about social justice warriors betraying the devoted Eternals fanbase by gender-flipping treasured characters like Ajak and Sprite, or making Kingo and the Forgotten One people of color. assault and Lawnmower Boy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 Sexy Jiggly Women? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 25, 2019 Report Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 hours ago, zslane said: Hey, let's not forget Gemma Chan as Sersi! Definitely not forgetting, but she won't be the target for the trolls. Unless they gripe that she's of Asian and not Greek descent. I hope to see Gemma Chan in lots more movies. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 People will be yawning, not complaining. Even die hard Comic Book geeks have a hard time naming even two Eternals. Its a really, really obscure Marvel Comics subgroup. Even with the Guardians of the Galaxy, comic fans would go "which incarnation?" but these guys... I mean, its always fun to sneer at your political foes and presume the worst of them, its sort of the pass time of humanity since we started talking but these guys are not burning up anyone's "must see" list. Its just Marvel's second attempt at an X-Men variant, since the Inhumans crashed and burned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Hugh Neilson said: Assuming they maintain the "mistaken for the Greek gods" schtick the Eternals have in Marvel (or maybe they ARE the Greek Gods in MCU), some gender roles should be defined, but that's not a lot of the Eternals. I'm not sure who Ajak was supposed to be in that model. Ajak is Russian and he is a Polar Eternal. Hugh Neilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 If these guys don't work, maybe they'll try the Knights of Wundagore and the High Evolutionary next. This latest wave of Marvel stuff feels almost like a bet. Who can get a billion dollars with the most obscure and z list character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: People will be yawning, not complaining. Even die hard Comic Book geeks have a hard time naming even two Eternals. Its a really, really obscure Marvel Comics subgroup. Even with the Guardians of the Galaxy, comic fans would go "which incarnation?" but these guys... I mean, its always fun to sneer at your political foes and presume the worst of them, its sort of the pass time of humanity since we started talking but these guys are not burning up anyone's "must see" list. Its just Marvel's second attempt at an X-Men variant, since the Inhumans crashed and burned Ike Perlmutter wanted it since they couldn't do Xmen. When they got rid of him in the movie part of the CoC, the studio let Perlmutter do what he wants on the television side of things. We're not following his lead on anything. Perlmutter is the one guy who didn't want a black widow movie, or a panther movie. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Neilson Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 The Inhumans, modeled from AoS, and from the comics a year or two earlier, being triggered in anyone at any time provides a convenient "common origin" for super powered opponents, replacing decades of Marvel "he's a mutant" origins. The comics have used it as well. It also provides powers emerging at ages other than adolescence, so greater flexibility there. The Eternals aren't going to provide origin stories outside their own universe. I don''t think Guardians of the Galaxy had any more public recognition when their movie was selected (despite being published) and a lot of comic grognards were still unhappy it wasn't Vance Astro and crew. The advantage of a property like the Eternals is that the source material isn't graven in stone, so it can be adapted a lot more to suit the movie genre from the comics in print genre. The comics Guardians had to evolve closer to the movie when it succeeded so wildly. Imagine if they had instead presented the Hulk like they presented Drax (he was not like that in any comics incarnation before the movie). It worked for Drax because the viewers had no preconceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazza Posted August 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Hugh Neilson said: ...Drax (he was not like that in any comics incarnation before the movie)... He was. According to Jim Starlin, film Drax is a combination of Infinity Watch "dumb" Drax and the current physicality of Drax first seen in Anniliation prequel mini series (Drax the Destroyer, 2005). Also IIRC, Starlin is happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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