Ternaugh Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Christopher R Taylor said: If you look carefully, you can see that Marvel did make sure that the Spider-Man they put out wasn't the same as the one Sony did. Different costume, different Mary Jane, different Aunt May, not just actresses but as different in appearance and style as possible. Almost as if they were deliberately doing an elseworlds version, not the Sony world. Marisa Tomei has been May Parker in every Tom Holland Spider-Man appearance, including the two Sony movies, and Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Endgame. I'm not certain what you mean by your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Ternaugh said: Marisa Tomei has been May Parker in every Tom Holland Spider-Man appearance, including the two Sony movies, and Captain America: Civil War and Avengers: Endgame. I'm not certain what you mean by your post. These changes are what he's talking about. The current Spider-Man is a Sony-Marvel collaboration. He's saying they took a strong swerve away from the prior two Sony incarnations of Spider-Man. (Though in this case Ultimate universe, which influences all of the MCU versions of characters to some degree, not Elseworlds.) Christopher R Taylor and Ternaugh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Liaden Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 You can't trust a word that comes out of a studio rep's mouth. Their job is to spin the facts to the brink of vertigo. zslane and Christopher R Taylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I understand this is about money, but given that the 2 spider-man movies have been Sony's biggest money makers, maybe they should learn something Fox never did and ended up with them returning FF and X-Men to Disney, that Feige and Marvel MIGHT know what they are doing with these characters and what made people like them in the comics and what to bring to the big screen. I am super disappointed, as I saw something about how the reveal of Peter as Spidey at the end of far from home could be a way to introduce Jen Walters, or even use Matt Murdoch, as he will need a lawyer who knows supers. This is VERY disappointing and I actually hope it gets straightened out. How many times have we said, the worst Marvel film (sort of like Pixar - what do they have in common?) are better then 2/3 of the stuff that comes out of the other studios. And I would say better then 90% of the other studios super movies (the exceptions, to me being the first 2 Raime Spidermen, first X-Men, and maybe one or two of the other X-men, also Wonder Woman and Aquaman if counting the other comic line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Amy Pascal may very well believe that she doesn't need Feige anymore in order for this incarnation of Spider-Man to continue succeeding for Sony. She may believe it is a brand that can't fail now. Time will tell whether she and Sony are correct in that assessment. Regardless, I'm sure that the moment Disney proposed owning a 50% stake in the Spider-Man franchise, Sony immediately closed ranks and pointed their proverbial sarissas at Disney and what they perceived as the opening move in a hostile takeover masquerading as a benign business agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Sony is being run by imbeciles if they don't rent out Spider-Man to Disney on a permanent basis. You can use him... if you pay us. Make your billion and give us our cut. Its basically zero risk, zero investment, and constant income. slikmar and ScottishFox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Both sides are greedy as heck.. that's their thing. But Disney wasn't exactly hurting when you consider the royalties of Spider-Man's MERCH is theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Hermit said: Both sides are greedy as heck.. that's their thing. But Disney wasn't exactly hurting when you consider the royalties of Spider-Man's MERCH is theirs They're going to get that anyway. Sony has tried to boost up their IP and most of them have only made their costs back or failed. If someone else was taking one of my properties (which I have to keep making movies to keep anyway), and making a billion dollars and giving me half, I would be like okay, let's do this CES pinecone and Christopher R Taylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Sony is being run by imbeciles if they don't rent out Spider-Man to Disney on a permanent basis. Except that it would appear Disney doesn't want to continue renting Spider-Man from Sony. They basically want to stop renting and own half of it outright. I'm sure you can understand why Sony doesn't like this idea. Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I shouldn't laugh. Christopher R Taylor, pinecone, Old Man and 3 others 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zslane Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I guess Spider-Man will be like all the Marvel-based tv shows that nominally inhabit the MCU but aren't really affected by it, nor acknowledge it in any substantial way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I would point out, does this mean Sony in the next 2 movies don't get to mention Tony Stark, Shield, Fury, Happy (Spidey's go to guy and May's new boy toy), etc.? Think how much they will have to retcon if you can't use that stuff, not to mention that the Battle of New York and the tech from that played a central part of the first movie and Stark played a big part o the second one. Also, do they still get to mention the Snap? I assume this goes both ways, or they are paying Disney a bunch of royalties anyway. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I suspect that if Sony and Disney don't kiss and make up, the Spider-Man franchise will get rebooted for the fourth time. Hence Tom Holland's Spider-Man: Homeless tweet. He knows his job is on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I'm sure Hammond, Maguire, and Garfield will give him a seat at the table. zslane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I wouldn't mind a reboot at all since they made so many unnecessary changes to the character and setting. But Holland does a great job with the character, so I would want to keep him. Give Sam Raimi back the keys, too he's the only director and writer yet who seems to have actually read any of the comics. mattingly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 csyphrett, zslane, Spence and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazza Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Stan Lee's daughter has harsh words for Disney after they lose Spider-Man https://apple.news/A5Wdb6Km1Tk6k4OM0agV7Rg Tom Holland's father weighs in on Spider-Man leaving the MCU https://apple.news/AQWYVqUGBSXaRnLzrvUEG3Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Old Man Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 From a cold hearted business perspective, it's interesting to wonder whether 95% of the profits of a non-MCU Spider-Man film would be more than 50% of the profits of an MCU Spider-Man film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 ...aaaand now there's a petition. Which actually has an impressive amount of signatures.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Old Man said: From a cold hearted business perspective, it's interesting to wonder whether 95% of the profits of a non-MCU Spider-Man film would be more than 50% of the profits of an MCU Spider-Man film. We have Amazing Spider-Man 2 for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Those 80k signature to the Keep Spider-Man in the MCU is nothing. If it gets to 1 million, then it may be something. Or the start of something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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