Pattern Ghost Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 ...then they will probably kiss and makeup afterwards, possibly with Wonder Woman's influence. bow-chick-a-wa-wa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Back to the trailer: Let me know when I can get a used copy of the DVD... I MIGHT watch it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 New Poster Reveals Ben Affleck In Batsuit Definitely a faithful reproduction of Frank Miller's depiction of Batman from Dark Knight Returns. Which makes me wonder what this means for Superman. When the producers released Man Of Steel they described it as a "Love Letter" to Superman. Does that make this movie "Hate Mail?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Okay--this is interesting-- Compare and contrast with the picture above. Could you recognize the man behind the mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 New Poster Reveals Ben Affleck In Batsuit Definitely a faithful reproduction of Frank Miller's depiction of Batman from Dark Knight Returns. Which makes me wonder what this means for Superman. When the producers released Man Of Steel they described it as a "Love Letter" to Superman. Does that make this movie "Hate Mail?" Right colors, atrocious textures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 He looks less like a linebacker in those pictures. I approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 He looks like a hobo that made a bat suit out of fiberglass strips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 While I think the suit is far from the sleekest or coolest outfit we have seen, I do think it makes sense and is acceptable. We are talking about a batman who is probably a bit more own to earth than some previous versions (comics and movies). He has had a long career already (I think he was to have already retired before the start of this movie). So some of the patchwork on his armor looks like it is covering up stab marks and such. And the mesh look of it in general looks like it would go a long way to providing layers of protection rather than one immobile outer armor. Foreign Orchid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 Okay--this is interesting-- Compare and contrast with the picture above. Could you recognize the man behind the mask? I love this picture. And I am excited to see the Bruce Wayne angle being explored more in this movie. It hopefully won't just be a way to introduce a love interest or explain away his finances alone. Foreign Orchid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 The one silly aspect of that suit is that the outer layer of it is clearly some sort of synthetic body armor (ala kevlar), which means it has been molded to look like musculature (i.e., it isn't his musculature forming an impression from inside, forcing the thick layers of body armor to conform to that musculature). In other words, just another case of vanity armor. It doesn't have to be solid panels molded into fake muscles to be silly, even woven mesh molded into fake muscles is silly. The Batman from the comics never wore body armor unless it was some sort of plate mail (ala TDKR); he just wore good old superhero spandex and got by just fine, even when fighting cosmic villains side-by-side with the rest of the (ridiculously powered and essentially impervious) JL members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted July 20, 2015 Report Share Posted July 20, 2015 I remember in B:TAS someone asking him after he had been shot in the chest about it. His comment was something like "Why do you think I paint a bright target on my chest, can't armor the head". I have always thought, especially in the last 20 years or more, that what he wore was at least Kevlar level armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yes, that was originally from Dark Knight Returns #1, and I also understand that the line was written into the first Burton movie, but was deleted. While I don't think that Batman has always worn armor--bulletproof vests from the thirties to the sixties weren't exactly form-fitting--I do think that as soon as Kevlar was publicly available in real life, the comics' Bruce Wayne put in an order for two dozen pullovers made of the stuff. In steel gray. Now I do think that a cloth outfit could work just as well as an armored outfit, and anyone who's seen is likely to agree. Myself, I don't have a problem with Affleck's suit, either the colors or the textures--I do wish, however, that they'd chosen a different Bat-Emblem (something like what Batman has in the Arkham Asylum video game series would have been good) and that the ears were just a touch longer. But that's me. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I have always thought, especially in the last 20 years or more, that what he wore was at least Kevlar level armor. The artwork in 95%+ of Batman comic books in the last 20 years or more would not support that thought. The notion that Batman must be wearing some kind of high-tech body armor is an artifact of Hollywood and their desperate need to forever distance themselves from the Adam West version of the character. It is not part of canonical Batman lore, even in modern times. Skin-tight costumes are still the norm in the DCU, and while those costumes may be more tear and stab resistant than conventional spandex, I don't think they are meant to be regarded as equivalent to paramilitary body armor. At the end of the day, if the costume appears to restrict the wearer even the slightest, then it is body armor of a sort antithetical to the Batman character we've known for 75 years. And so far, every movie Batman since Keaton in '89 has been burdened with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I disagree, it makes perfect sense he'd have some sort of armor given his love of gadgets, lifestyle, and money. Only a fool goes out risking his life constantly without some protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I did like the opening scene in the first Burton movie where Batman got up again after being shot. The look on the muggers' faces was downright priceless. You want to strike terror into the hearts of evildoers--that's the way to do it. What bothered me about the armor in the Nolan movies was that apart from seemingly being pieced together from the DARPA surplus catalog, it was all black, including the Bat-Emblem. Why bother? Who's going to see it? It may have made sense to somebody, but it didn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 The bat emblem is kind of silly in the first place, since he's dressed up like a giant bat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 It's for emphasis. It's not like he can transform into a bat like Dracula or Kirk Langstrom. Besides, I like chest emblems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Oh, I like it too. I was just pointing out that it's kind of redundant. I mean: Maybe the realllllly slow crooks wouldn't pick up on the bat theme, so perhaps it's for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Because without the bat emblem, the chest looks blank and silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Because without the bat emblem, the chest looks blank and silly. and the bat-signal would just be a normal spotlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Because without the bat emblem, the chest looks blank and silly. Worse than that, without an appropriate logo or emblem, he'd just have to leave a hole in his costume that showed off his chest. Hey, it's been done before.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I disagree, it makes perfect sense he'd have some sort of armor given his love of gadgets, lifestyle, and money. Only a fool goes out risking his life constantly without some protection. Then he's been a fool for nearly his entire comic book career. Some post-modern stories have explored the notion that he is insane, rather than simply foolhardy, but one of the things you are expected to just accept as a reader of his comic is that he goes out and fights crime in a relatively sturdy, skin-tight, spandex-like costume, not military-grade body armor. While the rubber science of superhero comics can handwave that into providing "some protection", it's not going to be enough to stop high-calibre bullets or most supervillain attacks. He has to mostly dodge those... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 In the last 5 years he has been drawn with Dark Knight movie armor. Also FWIW, Batman wiki, Batsuit wiki, DC wiki, and DC Comics database all basically describe the batsuit of the last 30 years (post-crisis) as being several different types of body armor such as kevlar and nomex. Including different high-tech devices interwoven into the suit and cowl. Cap's costume was drawn 'skin-tight' also until the Ultimates, but was repeatedly described as being high-tech chainmail. Personally, I've been reading Batman, Justice League, and even Outsiders off and on since the 70's and I never got the impression he was running around in spandex. I've seen him have all kinds of gadgets used from his cowl, block bullets with his cape in several instances, hook his utility belt into his gloves and shock someone, etc. That's just my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Only in more recent DC-related works did I consider Batman to actually be wearing armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Cap's costume has always been chainmail, but it didn't show up unless you had closeups. That was more a feature of the quick simple art and low printing quality than the character design, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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