Lord Liaden Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Oh, I can hear a skull Trumpsloding from 'way over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: Oh, I can hear a skull Trumpsloding from 'way over here. You're taking a vacation on Mars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 55 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Pure, unadulterated attempts at CYA. Given the extended period of time they pushed these claims...what, 5 solid weeks...I think this means squat in terms of mitigating their libel. Particularly since there are recordings of every time they did it. MAGA cultists may ignore them, but a court of law won't. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: Particularly since there are recordings of every time they did it. MAGA cultists may ignore them, but a court of law won't. I dunno, if the court of law is this SCOTUS, it might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Another aspect of these retractions is it shows how seriously the lawsuit threat is taken by the networks' legal departments and boardrooms. EDIT: Old Man, I strongly disagree. You're being extremely unfair to the Justices. Mind, I'm no fan of this Court, but this doesn't have federal vs. state powers, or presidential authority, or Constitutional literalism aspects. Heck, the Court's already dismissed a few of the voting cases already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 All the same, we should take the current situation seriously. A lot of damage can still be done in the last 30 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Old Man said: I dunno, if the court of law is this SCOTUS, it might. I do think the composition of this post-Trump SCOTUS is worrisome, but it's already essentially told Trump to take his lawsuits and take a flying leap. Whatever the justices may be loyal to besides the law, the Donald isn't one of them Grailknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez got the COVID vaccine early and says she was offered it as part of the continuity of government program (she's somewhere in the low 400's in the presidential line of succession). https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9076583/Ilhan-Omar-slams-lawmakers-like-AOC-getting-vaccine-65s.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 It’s not that politicians are getting vaccinated early. It’s that politicians who spent all year downplaying the danger from the virus and calling it a Democrat hoax are getting vaccinated early. unclevlad, Matt the Bruins, aylwin13 and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Old Man said: It’s not that politicians are getting vaccinated early. It’s that politicians who spent all year downplaying the danger from the virus and calling it a Democrat hoax are getting vaccinated early. What would be even more meretricious would be Hannity, Carlson, et al. push to jump the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Old Man said: It’s not that politicians are getting vaccinated early. It’s that politicians who spent all year downplaying the danger from the virus and calling it a Democrat hoax are getting vaccinated early. While I also find that very hypocritical of them, I would say that if they are getting the vaccine very publicly, it may help get their followers to agree to get vaccinated as well. I'd rather have a vast majority of the population vaccinated and bring this damned thing to a close, than have half the people refuse to get vaccinated and keep dragging this pandemic out forever. Pariah, Matt the Bruins, Lee and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 I have no problem with major political representatives getting early vaccines, I do have a problem with hypocrisy. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 If I were Hannity, Carlson, or others of their ilk I'd be worried that an angry nurse who's had to watch hundreds of Covid patients die unnecessarily thanks to my misinformation might have something in that hypo other than Pfizer's or Moderna's vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Trump’s Rage Thrusts Washington Loyalists Into a ‘Blast Zone’ of Post-Election Fantasy Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Matt the Bruins said: If I were Hannity, Carlson, or others of their ilk I'd be worried that an angry nurse who's had to watch hundreds of Covid patients die unnecessarily thanks to my misinformation might have something in that hypo other than Pfizer's or Moderna's vaccine. Assuming any degree of “smarts”, I’d be more concerned that someone who didn’t like me was about to stick me with something sharp - and I’d given them permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 but but but the deficiiit TrickstaPriest and Hermit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Nobody, because the President said tonight he wouldn't sign it? Or has that changed already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Old Man said: but but but the deficiiit Well, it's not like congress is there to serve and represent your average American citizen or anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Breaking down the $900B stimulus package and $1.4T omnibus bill While it would certainly be nicer if there was more direct money to Americans, 'most' of it looks pretty reasonable to me. It's my guess that Trump's REAL problem with the bill is this: Personnel office stays independent The legislation blocks the Trump administration’s plan to merge most of the functions of the Office of Personnel Management into the General Services Administration, a proposal decried by unions representing federal workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 There may be several provisions like that, which he doesn't much like. But to me, the root of it is, Trump is the ultimate troll. He loves to cause chaos; he feels empowered because, gee, look how many people have to react to his impulses? That's Power, Baby!! The only way to avoid that is give him everything he wants...like a second term. And damn the consequences. He doesn't care if the government shuts down. He might care that the economy collapses...but he probably doesn't think it will. The stock market's still up, up, up, baby, see? We're doing a great job!! Conversely, you can argue that he doesn't care if the economy tanks because he wants Biden to have as large a mess to clean up as possible. Picking the "let's up the direct payment to $2000" also feels like retaliation against McConnell, who doesn't want that, and really the rest of the Congressional Republicans. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 Since I'm not making enough Biden jokes (and to counteract the worldwide lack of Biden jokes so far) Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, archer said: Since I'm not making enough Biden jokes (and to counteract the worldwide lack of Biden jokes so far) "The last man nearly ruined this place, he didn't know what to do with it / If you think this country's bad off now, just wait 'til I get through with it." Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Ternaugh said: "The last man nearly ruined this place, he didn't know what to do with it / If you think this country's bad off now, just wait 'til I get through with it." Yeesh, I hope that poet isn't a prophet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, archer said: Yeesh, I hope that poet isn't a prophet.... Groucho Marx sang the line in Duck Soup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ternaugh said: Groucho Marx sang the line in Duck Soup. Ah, that explains things. I like Groucho for his jokes, not for his soup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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