TrickstaPriest Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, unclevlad said: With video that bad...it's important enough to post, no question...but it's rather hard to overstate the warning. Yes. I had seen part of it when I had shared it and I thought it was the worst of it, but it got worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Odd: The link I tried to copy and paste isn't pasting. Oh, well. On Oct 6, the NPR program "Fresh Air" interviewed Russia expert Fiona Hill, whom you might remember from Trump's first impeachment. She's written a book; she talks about it, and her time in diplomacy and the White House. Smart, wry observations about a life in public service and some of the horrifying idiots she encountered in her last post -- and some not at all funny observations about the state of American democracy from an expert on autocracy. Goodle "Fresh Air Fiona Hill" and you should reach it. Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 <sigh> So on the Nextdoor neighborhood app, someone posted that the local Sam's Club wasn't enforcing mask wearing in the store. Rather quickly that brought out the anti-vax crowd with their usual collection of misinformation. "It's a mandate, not a law. It's optional." True for vaccines, false for masking. And so on. And so on. And so on. And so on. And so on. and so on. I need a keeper to hit me with a cattle prod when I start typing in a response. It's lose-lose; say nothing and let their BS stand; challenge their 'facts' and get sucked into their morass. And start spiking your BP and giving yourself a migraine. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Once hailed as heroes, health care workers now face a rash of violence TrickstaPriest and Joe Walsh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 I was cleaning out my spam trap on an older email address this morning, and noticed that I've received several messages from a former Attorney General, who is apparently running as a Republican for one of our senate seats next year. I then noticed that all of the messages are addressed using my Mom's first name, which is quite odd, as she hadn't been registered to vote in Nevada since the early 90s, has never owned a computer, has never had an email address, and has been dead for five years. It's funny that he's spouting the voter fraud line in his fundraising, while actively courting the dead vote. TrickstaPriest, BoloOfEarth, aylwin13 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Well, it's a growing demographic. aylwin13, Lawnmower Boy, Ternaugh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Once hailed as heroes, health care workers now face a rash of violence It's really hard to find light at the end of this increasingly dark tunnel. Sigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I totally understand, Dr. M. More and more I feel like it's time to pull the plug on this experiment. Some days giant asteroid just seems like a really good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, aylwin13 said: I totally understand, Dr. M. More and more I feel like it's time to pull the plug on this experiment. Some days giant asteroid just seems like a really good idea. Seems like the official R party platform is now becoming 'we don't know who won the last election, and we shouldn't have certified the results'. So you understand, if you have one part of a country thinking one person is president, and another almost as large part saying another person is president, you don't have one country anymore. Pariah and aylwin13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 It's how third-world election results are frequently framed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I don't have any real hope that the situation can be fixed. It's possible that if the moderate, anti-Trump Republicans can join with some of the Democrats, maybe some good things can happen...but the hard left Democrats whose theme song is Queen's I Want It All will sabotage the effort as much as the hard-right Republicans. We've been in a form of civil war for some time; only in the last few years has this become blatant. Even before Trump, cooling things off would've been very difficult; his 4 years enabled and emboldened efforts that no one sane would've conceived as possible 10 years ago. It'll probably take another generation to assess the overall damage...the degree to which he accelerated the sociopolitical civil war into an actual civil war. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 There has been an interesting development in Australia that could point to a possible path to de-escalation in the US. The Murdoch newspapers and TV network here have suddenly decided that climate change is real. I'm not sure all the flying monkeys have got the memo yet, but it is a major political shift by a mainstay of climate change denialism. So what happened? Reality. The economic and political costs of maintaining the status quo became too great. It's conceivable that the cost of the extreme polarisation in the US might become too great, resulting in the more mainstream idiots toning things down for the greater good of US capital. That wouldn't stop the fringe crazies, but it would undercut their support. I wouldn't worry about the "left" - the Democrats have a long history of turning radicals into hacks. TrickstaPriest and Hermit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 It's a bit of a positive development, but I fear it's too little, too late. The monsters of popular extremism and conspiracy theory in the United States that the media and politicians nurtured have grown beyond their ability to control. If their followers don't like what one voice is telling them, they'll find another that tells them what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 You mean like how when Fox News started making comments critical of Donald Trump, his followers migrated to OAN? Yeah, I can see that. Sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Better stuff happens when governments trust their citizens with full information, rather than hide information "to prevent panic" (Link is from Nature.) I think that analysis is too charitable. Too many tyrants-in-all-but-official-title have a god complex (or God's-chosen complex) and are constitutionally incapable of recognizing that they have limits, and overstepping them is catastrophic. The appearance of infallibility is too important to their egos to let them go this route. And their subjects pay with their lives. pinecone and Hermit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I think of such as the Mushroom Party. Their platform: Keep their followers in the dark and feed them b******t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Rep. Jim Jordan’s Anti-Vax Tweet Gets Turned Into A Scathing Reminder Of His Past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Pariah said: Rep. Jim Jordan’s Anti-Vax Tweet Gets Turned Into A Scathing Reminder Of His Past One of the major, embarrassing points about the anti-vax position WRT Covid is brought up there...that there are numerous vaccination mandates already in place. So how is a vaccine mandate unconstitutional, or an abuse of power? The flip side here might well be...imagine if mumps appeared today, rather than having a long, long history. Mumps is *generally* minor, but ints complications include encephalitis, and that's anything but minor. Transmissivity is, I think, similar. It seems likely that mumps vaccination would be fought just as strongly. Measles is more serious in some ways...but its fatality rate is 1 to 3 per 1000. Covid's is about 1.8%, or 18 per 1000 cases. A recent thread about a local Sam's Club that didn't enforce mask requirements devolved into the usual shouting match...and one <BLEEEP><BLEEEP><BLEEEP> actually said "Covid only kills 1% of the people who get it, so what's the big deal?" I kid you not. That entire thread got deleted, altho it took much longer than I expected for that to happen. It's plausible that measles would still draw far less pushback because it affects small kids, and can cause serious issues for a fetus. Those are hot-button problems. Covid "only kills old farts"...which isn't true, but shows extreme ageism. But even thinking that, should something like these diseases start to appear, that the US' response would be so crippled, is dumbfounding. (Pun absolutely intended.) Matt the Bruins and TrickstaPriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, unclevlad said: ...and one <BLEEEP><BLEEEP><BLEEEP> actually said "Covid only kills 1% of the people who get it, so what's the big deal?" I kid you not. I know. Lady P's friend was one of the people who said that. Turns out he was also one of the 1%. I hate this disease so much. TrickstaPriest and DShomshak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Pariah said: I hate this disease so much. I don't. It's a disease. It's like any other natural disaster; it just makes like a royal PITA. OTOH, the liars, the grifters, the manipulators who trade the lives of others for personal and/or political gain..."hate" is way too mild. Many of them rate Dante's Ninth Circle...Antenor, the region for those who betrayed their homeland or political party. TrickstaPriest, Pariah, aylwin13 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, unclevlad said: OTOH, the liars, the grifters, the manipulators who trade the lives of others for personal and/or political gain..."hate" is way too mild. Many of them rate Dante's Ninth Circle...Antenor, the region for those who betrayed their homeland or political party. We are pretty much watching climate denial in real-time and trackable. The literal lengths politicians will go to, etc etc... aylwin13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 It is a disquieting experience to reunite with an individual one hasn't seen a while only to hear them say the following words, "Taxes are theft." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 In a church. In a [REDACTED] church! U.K. lawmaker stabbed to death while holding meetings with voters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 re: ___ is theft ... https://sharpknivespunk.bandcamp.com/releases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Pariah said: In a church. In a [REDACTED] church! U.K. lawmaker stabbed to death while holding meetings with voters Is it comforting or disturbing that we in the US aren't the only society unraveling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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