Susano Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Hehe. For this' date=' I present the .600 Nitro Express Revolver (I believe previously pictured):[/quote'] Looks like a revolver made for a Kazei 5 cyborg. Or Shion Nys, who has a 40 STR. Of course, I do have the Remington Stormbreaker in my book, a 15mm 3-shot revolver designed as an anti-cyborg/cyberdroid weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I really loved Cyberpunk... *sigh* I never really got the whole "rocker" thing that much' date=' but still, it was an interesting touch. I just liked the environment and the genre.[/quote'] Rockers are in cyberpunk books probably because of Angie Mitchell (Mona Lisa Overdrive) and Priss Asagiri (Bubblegum Crisis). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Rockers are in cyberpunk books probably because of Angie Mitchell (Mona Lisa Overdrive) and Priss Asagiri (Bubblegum Crisis). If only Priss had intelligence to go with her guts! I have no idea where my DVD collection went... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Priss wasn't stupid. Just overly focused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmadanNaBriona Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Rockers are in cyberpunk books probably because of Angie Mitchell (Mona Lisa Overdrive) and Priss Asagiri (Bubblegum Crisis). mostly Priss, from this admittedly oddly anecdotal chain of reasoning... I know a lot of the RTas "Second wavers" who contributed to & playtested the original cyberpunk.They were among the Hero gamers at my school, a year or two ahead of me, who all headed to UC Santa Cruz, back when R Taslorian was all about Mekton and Arasaka Industries was one of the big bad corporations in our pre-1st edition Star Hero "Space Game" campaign. Yep, you heard it. Arisaka came from a HERO campaign. Anyway, those guys were ALLL about the Anime' influences for the Rockers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games mostly Priss, from this admittedly oddly anecdotal chain of reasoning... I know a lot of the RTas "Second wavers" who contributed to & playtested the original cyberpunk.They were among the Hero gamers at my school, a year or two ahead of me, who all headed to UC Santa Cruz, back when R Taslorian was all about Mekton and Arasaka Industries was one of the big bad corporations in our pre-1st edition Star Hero "Space Game" campaign. Yep, you heard it. Arisaka came from a HERO campaign. Anyway, those guys were ALLL about the Anime' influences for the Rockers I was going to make some lame comment about Yellow Dancer (Lancer) and the Love Live and Alive concert, but it turns out I might have been closer than I thought.... Back then Anime had to have a cool musical talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games If I had to extrapolate damage for "handzukas", based on existing handgun damage: .500 S&W = 2d+1 KA, +1 STN .600 Nitro = 2.5d KA, +1 STN (?) 20 mm = 3d, +1 STN 23-25mm = 3d+1, +1 STN 27-32 mm = 3.5 d, +1 STN 35-40mm = 4d, +1 STN 50 mm = 4d+1, +1 STN 57-60 mm = 4.5 d, +1 STN 70-75 mm = 5d, +1 STN Anything beyond that is probably similar to a handheld RPG or LAW--a one-shot-capacity weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadmaster Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games If I had to extrapolate damage for "handzukas", based on existing handgun damage: .500 S&W = 2d+1 KA, +1 STN .600 Nitro = 2.5d KA, +1 STN (?) 20 mm = 3d, +1 STN 23-25mm = 3d+1, +1 STN 27-32 mm = 3.5 d, +1 STN 35-40mm = 4d, +1 STN 50 mm = 4d+1, +1 STN 57-60 mm = 4.5 d, +1 STN 70-75 mm = 5d, +1 STN Anything beyond that is probably similar to a handheld RPG or LAW--a one-shot-capacity weapon. What kind of setting? The stats for the .500 S&W are about as much as you are going to get in a mostly reality based game. Yes there have been more powerful one offs but they are not really practical, mostly theoretically working wall hangers. In a game where physics are more guidelines than laws, guns like that .600 Nitro are much more viable. In something where physics only apply when it works for the story, something like a 20-25mm pistol are possible. Anything beyond that is really getting out there. Also don't get too hung up on the caliber, there is a ton of variation based on cartridge length. No reason you can't call it a 40mm pistol while using 20mm stats. The 40mm Bofors probably used to stat that 40mm above has a cartridge 311mm long, a bit much to fit into a pistol, but a cut down 40x100mm might work in the right setting. There are real 25mm pistols, but they are low velocity weapons more like a grenade launcher, many flare guns are around this size. Beef up the gun a bit and a higher velocity version functional as a real weapon for a really buff character would be possible. Similarly a revolver using the standard US 40mm grenade round would be something to consider, not really intended as a solid shot weapon but grenades have their own special features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Rockers are in cyberpunk books probably because of Angie Mitchell (Mona Lisa Overdrive) and Priss Asagiri (Bubblegum Crisis). The music industry also featured prominently in Norman Spinrad's Little Heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Here's a pic of the Heckler and Koch grenade machine gun: [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games ". . . My sweet little boom-boom maker . . ." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games My buddy in the 10th Mtn. division LOVES the the Mark 19 mod 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Who wouldn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games This thread has been going for so long I don't remember if I, or someone else, has already posted this link. Lots of cool guns for near-future / cyberpunk games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Lots of cool guns for near-future / cyberpunk games. Excellent find. I said in a NGD thread that I was looking for "ray gun" images, but couldn't find anything that wasn't a design from the 30s to the 60s, a cartoon image, or an obvious toy. And while the vast majority of images are supposed to be projectile weapons--even the "Starbuck"--they could also stand in for laser or plasma weapons. Thank You for posting this. Have reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Most useful link! Rep for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I remember some of the stuff in that link from Edge of the Sword's book on guns and others from Shadowrun's weapons catalogue. I kept thinking the ARES Predator would crop up. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusterBoy Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Another pic of the H&K GMG, in case the 1st one didn't work: [ATTACH]31567[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Steve Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Another pic of the H&K GMG, in case the 1st one didn't work: [ATTACH]31567[/ATTACH] a technical question... What, exactly needs killing so badly that your grenade launcher needs to be full auto and belt fed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games Anything in that grid square that was looking at you the wrong way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susano Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games a technical question... What, exactly needs killing so badly that your grenade launcher needs to be full auto and belt fed? Zombies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristopher Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games a technical question... What, exactly needs killing so badly that your grenade launcher needs to be full auto and belt fed? It's not so much what, as it is how many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games I remember seeing the Marines firing one of those (or something very similar) during the first Gulf War, the pictures were from the Battle of Khafji. The weapon was being used purely for suppression, fired slowly and panning across a large area of ruined buildings on the other side of an open area. I remember thinking at the time that there just couldn't be anything more effective at such a task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markdoc Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games One of my books lists this gun and comments that it might be useful for dispatching a belligerent mouse or cockroach. The 2.7mm round has a whopping 3 ft/lbs of energy. For comparison the .22 Long Rifle has 159 ft / lbs. The 2.7mm bullet weighs 3 grains, just 1/12 the weight of a .22 bullet. Yeah, but note the intended use: it would cause you some grief if someone stuck the muzzle directly into your ear and then pulled the trigger ... which is what purse guns like that were for. If you had to use it, your assailant was probably already in close physical contact. cheers, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayapuppies Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Re: Cool Guns for your Games A little size comparison for the Mk 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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