zslane Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I'm not sure we're disagreeing about anything here. But I have to say that simply having a plan at all put Marvel light years ahead of DC/WB. Even if it was a gamble with no guarantees of seeing fruition, the fact that movies were being made, and elements thrown in, just in case the gamble paid off says a lot about how forward-thinking Marvel has been right from the beginning. Again, compared to the utter lack of creative vision demonstrated by DC/WB during the same time period, I'd say Marvel's "plan" (put air quotes around that word if you must) was freaking genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 George R.R. Martin is Also Bored with Marvel’s Villains http://www.slashfilm.com/george-r-r-martins-marvel-villains/ I'm getting bored with his heroes, so I guess we are even. But he raises some good points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 How Marvel Treats Its Movies Different From Its Netflix Shows http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-Marvel-Treats-Its-Movies-Different-From-Its-Netflix-Shows-73257.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 George R.R. Martin is Also Bored with Marvel’s Villains http://www.slashfilm.com/george-r-r-martins-marvel-villains/ I'm getting bored with his heroes, so I guess we are even. But he raises some good points. LOL Martin has no heroes. Bazza and Pattern Ghost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjcurrie Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 LOL Martin has no heroes. I think the Great and Powerful Turtle counts as a hero. The man has written more than Game of Thrones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 That's the one that drowned all the bad guys with a tsunami, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Marvels villains have been the weak point in some films. I really liked Loki and I liked Ronan in GotG. I did not like the villain in IM3 (mainly because I was looking forward to the actual Mandarin showing up) and the villain in Ant man was pretty 2 dimensional. The one I am looking forward to the most is Thanos of course. He's already had some development and with the Infinity War being two films in length, there will be tome to develop him further, so I am not really worried about him being 2 dimensional. I just hope they give him a solid motivation for wanting tondominate everything (I doubt it will be for love of Death) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 That's the one that drowned all the bad guys with a tsunami, right? I think he had sufficient motivation for a non-Comics Code character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Marvels villains have been the weak point in some films. I really liked Loki and I liked Ronan in GotG. I did not like the villain in IM3 (mainly because I was looking forward to the actual Mandarin showing up) and the villain in Ant man was pretty 2 dimensional. The one I am looking forward to the most is Thanos of course. He's already had some development and with the Infinity War being two films in length, there will be tome to develop him further, so I am not really worried about him being 2 dimensional. I just hope they give him a solid motivation for wanting tondominate everything (I doubt it will be for love of Death) Like you i look forward to a dimensional character of Thanos, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Joss Whedon Reveals 10 Avengers: Age Of Ultron Secrets http://www.empireonline.com/features/joss-whedon-avengers-ultron-secrets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Cinematic Ultron has been a polarizing villain for a lot of people. Some fans really wanted a cold, menacing, "robotic" Ultron more reminiscent of the comics. Despite that being a type of villain we've seen literally thousands of times before... and complained about in other Marvel movies. I'm one of those who likes the sarcastic, arrogant, childish Ultron from the movie. It's a fresh take that interested and entertained me more. 薔薇語, Starlord, Pattern Ghost and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yeah he worked fine for me. What made Ultron great was never his personality, only his origin and goals. Thanos' love for death was pretty well winked at in the first Avengers end credits scene, I think they'll be keeping that around. Its so interesting and unique. Marvel has always had great villains though, from Doc Ock to Dr Doom, Magneto, Galactus, etc. DC is starting to catch up but for decades all they really had was the Joker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 IMHO DC has a lot of great villainous characters. Where they've long lagged behind Marvel is in their roster of world-threatening "master villains." DC has a relative handful of those, and keep reusing them over and over. Marvel has dozens, all with their own unique styles and motivations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Looking forward to the 6th Avengers film, Avengers vs. Squadron Sinister and Warner Brothers Legal Department. Bazza, NuSoardGraphite and BlueCloud2k2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 From Latino Review which has a history of scoops (and rumours so possibly take with a grain of salt) Rachel McAdams Confirms That She's Been Approached For Marvel's 'Doctor Strange' Jackman Reveals Teaser Image For 'Wolverine III' and Confirms Exit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted July 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 ‘Jessica Jones’ Showrunner: “We Went Even Further” Than Original Marvel Comics Series Official Look at ’s Costume From the ‘Ant-Man’ Post-Credits Scene http://screencrush.com/ant-man-post-credits-wasp-costume/ Hey, we saw the film, not a spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Jessica Jones is a really odd choice for a show, given her near-total obscurity, but I guess they really wanted a female character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Bendis may have more pull than we thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 She's not the most obscure character that's been used in the MCU, and has a connection to Luke Cage. Since they're doing Power Man and Iron Fist, it makes sense. I'm more surprised that they went with the Defenders for the team up show and not Heroes for Hire. bigbywolfe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Defenders makes a certain amount of sense given that Dr. Strange and the Hulk have been prominent members in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Dr. Strange and the Hulk don't fit into the street level milieu that they're building on Netflix, though, which is why I found the choice odd. The Defenders started out as a title full of heavy hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 High-powered mutants don't fit into the epsionage milieu of a SHIELD tv show, and yet they are using Agents of SHIELD to introduce us to the Inhumans, some of whom are extraordinarily powerful. Using a Defenders show to link up with some of the more interesting tangents of the MCU--even if only in the form of occasional cameos and side references--feels entirely within the Netflix charter to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 OK. Doesn't fit anything they've actually said about their plans, but you could be right. Maybe they plan to do some higher power stuff later or are just leaving their options open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 I was surprised they didn't do the Daughters of the Dragon (Colleen Wing and Misty Knight). Also with tie-ins to Power Man and Iron Fist and Heroes for Hire. Would also have given them a minority female character as a lead, and they could have changed Colleen from blonde caucasian to asian pretty easily. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 I agre, Daughters of the Dragon make more sense and fit the Heroes for Hire thing but I think the current editorial staff of Marvel has their preferences of characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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