Christopher R Taylor Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 They felt just like the comics did to me - at least before Marvel took a gigantic dump on the character. Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 The Raimi/McGuire Spider-Man never hit the mark with the witty banter. Otherwise, the first two movies were a pretty decent overall take on the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well, making Spider-Man feel more like John Hughes is a good step, but they need to have a long talk with Sam Raimi apparently about how to get the feel right. Or just hire him again. They need to take Spider-Man in a new direction for this next reboot. Make him darker. Edgier. Grittier. Show him growing up with an abusive Uncle Ben. After he kills Ben and runs away from home, he gets sucked into a synthetic drug ring. That's where he gets his superpowers. And we need to change his powers too. He's too PG. He should have a venomous bite. We're definitely going with the black costume. Probably armor it up, make him look like a cross between a football player and a Navy SEAL. With guns! zslane, Pattern Ghost, Burrito Boy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's certainly how DC would approach it... Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbywolfe Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 That's certainly how DC would approach it...At this point it sounds more like how FOX would deal with it if FF is any indication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The Raimi/McGuire Spider-Man never hit the mark with the witty banter. I'll grant you that, they could have been better with Spidey's goofy and fun dialog. Although to be fair, there's no way there's time for his fun lines while he's fighting. In comics you just add more word balloons, but in a movie? Hard to fit it all in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'll grant you that, they could have been better with Spidey's goofy and fun dialog. Although to be fair, there's no way there's time for his fun lines while he's fighting. In comics you just add more word balloons, but in a movie? Hard to fit it all in In the cartoon the action often pauses so that Spidey can address his witty banter to the audience directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'll grant you that, they could have been better with Spidey's goofy and fun dialog. Although to be fair, there's no way there's time for his fun lines while he's fighting. In comics you just add more word balloons, but in a movie? Hard to fit it all in They managed to fit it in pretty well in the second set of movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I thought the Garfield ones got the banter and fighting style done pretty well. I liked his webs being a big deal in the fights. I still preferred the first 2 Raimi ones. the third one might have been ok, if they had allowed him not to use Venom and done just Sandman. I really liked Sandman's story in there and thought Church did a good job and had the look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 They felt just like the comics did to me - at least before Marvel took a gigantic dump on the character. OK - I can see it. To me it was just a rehash of Darkman again, including the ending monologue. I felt the movie could have with 20% less "Peters life is horrible, and everyone dumps on him" and 20% more "Fun to Spider-man and the one liners" - I felt it was too dark for a Spidey movie pretty much. But I guess I don't have much room to comment like that as I liked Man of Steel. Raimi made a decent movie, and a decent take on the character, I just had some issues with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I thought the Garfield ones got the banter and fighting style done pretty well. I liked his webs being a big deal in the fights. I still preferred the first 2 Raimi ones. the third one might have been ok, if they had allowed him not to use Venom and done just Sandman. I really liked Sandman's story in there and thought Church did a good job and had the look. I think I stopped watching the 3rd one halfway through.. maybe not even that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I thought the Garfield ones got the banter and fighting style done pretty well. I liked his webs being a big deal in the fights. I still preferred the first 2 Raimi ones. the third one might have been ok, if they had allowed him not to use Venom and done just Sandman. I really liked Sandman's story in there and thought Church did a good job and had the look. That pretty much sums up my thoughts too. The second Raimi is still one of my favorite super hero movies. As for the third, Venom was an addition forced on by the studio execs, and I think Raimi got vindictive in the way he executed it. It would have probably been very decent without Venom tacked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I thought, for the most part, McGuire was the better Parker, and Garfield was the better Spider-Man Lord Liaden and Pattern Ghost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I have only seen the Raimi Spider-Man films...so far. I plan to watch the other two, just haven't got around to it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I thought, for the most part, McGuire was the better Parker, and Garfield was the better Spider-Man There you go, fencing again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 the third one might have been ok, if they had allowed him not to use Venom and done just Sandman. I really liked Sandman's story in there and thought Church did a good job and had the look I'm reasonably certain that Raimi's script and idea for the third Spider-Man movie was the Sandman story, and the studios forced Venom on him for extra moichendizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Raimi said that he doesn't like Venom and he was only interested in the classic villains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Venom's like thirty years old and has had his own title, how is he not a classic villain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I guess when the character's history goes back twenty-five years before that. The majority of villains identified with Spidey's "rogues gallery" debuted during the first decade of his title: Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Kraven the Hunter, Sandman, the Lizard, Mysterio, the Scorpion, Electro, the Vulture, the Rhino... I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. Even in 1988 when Venom debuted, his style foreshadowed the "Iron Age" of comics, which lots of longer-term fans view as "post-classic." (Personally I despise the character, but that's irrelevant to this discussion.) Hugh Neilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Venom's like thirty years old and has had his own title, how is he not a classic villain? Venom was only like 20-25 when that movie was made and "classic" is not solely defined by how old something is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 You... you mean I'm not classic? *sniffle* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Perhaps not just due to your antiquity; but being partially rendered by Michelangelo does help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 You... you mean I'm not classic? *sniffle* Classic like Sumer is classic: ancient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 You... you mean I'm not classic? *sniffle* You're not a Spider-Man villain, or are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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