Starlord Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Safe and palatable. Let's be constantly safe and palatable. No thanks, I enjoy a mix of safe and risky with the MCU. Which is exactly what they seem to be doing. Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted December 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 The films unfortunately have to tread the line between more of the same, plus something different, because 1) to keep the actors & production interested, and 2) if it was exactly the same the audience is like, “ok whatever”. I recently watched the Pink Panther films which are a good example of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hugh Neilson Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 OK, let's consider... 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Spider-Man making over a billion world wide draws a pretty stark comparison between it and the previous three MCU films. Some characters are just more liked, and they also went with a more reliable cast and crew for this one as well. The formula is this: 1) Pick a director who loves the material Agree 100%. 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: and is an established quality So we will never have any new Directors? What was James Gunn's track record with Supers before he directed GoTG? How many had Joss Whedon directed before Avengers? 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: 2) Cast it with great talent Agree. That does not mean proven talent. Who else would have hired RDJ? Tom Holland wasn't exactly a household name either. 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: 3) Write a solid, enjoyable story that honors the source material and the fans Honours, sure. But as I recall the source material, Peter Parker had no real friends in high school. His early crushes/girlfriends were Betty Brant (a secretary, not a fellow student), Liz Allen (a white blonde), Gwen Stacy (ditto) and Mary Jane Watson (a white redhead). His Aunt was elderly and frail, as I recall, and never knew Peter was Spider-man (certainly not in his high school days). I don't recall any Filipinos in his high school classes, but I do recall Flash Thompson, a red-haired white jock. Some might say the various castings are 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: checking off special identity and narrative boxes. but I'd say they 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: 2) Cast it with great talent and 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: 4) Focus on entertainment Finally... 23 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Oh, it also helps if you stick with beloved, time-tested characters. So ditch those teachers, that high school buddy "Ned Leeds" and any father figure for Peter Parker? And we certainly would never want any new characters creeping into the MCU, or the comics for that matter! In fact, the movies should stick to high-profile characters like the Hulk (how did his movie do again?), not B-Listers like Iron Man and Thor, much less more minor characters like Hawkeye, GoTG or Black Panther. Did I get all that right? Twilight, Lee, Armory and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 6 hours ago, BoloOfEarth said: A few hundred million here, a few hundred million there. Pretty soon, you're talking *real* money. Like...Pentagon "Real money", or...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 Lawnmower Boy, Pariah, pinecone and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted December 28, 2021 Report Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Hugh Neilson said: Did I get all that right? Safe and palatable. Hugh Neilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pariah Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 5:10 AM, mattingly said: Pariah -> <- mattingly Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Quote Did I get all that right? Well you trolled as hard as you can, I'll give you credit for that. Spence and Armory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Bring me pitchers of Spider-Man! Lawnmower Boy and Lord Liaden 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazza Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Doctor Strange 2 Might Be Victim of Marvel Rights Issuehttps://thedirect.com/article/doctor-strange-2-marvel-gargantos-shuma-gorath-rights-issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 12/28/2021 at 10:54 AM, Hugh Neilson said: Honours, sure. But as I recall the source material, Peter Parker had no real friends in high school. His early crushes/girlfriends were Betty Brant (a secretary, not a fellow student), Liz Allen (a white blonde), Gwen Stacy (ditto) and Mary Jane Watson (a white redhead). His Aunt was elderly and frail, as I recall, and never knew Peter was Spider-man (certainly not in his high school days). I don't recall any Filipinos in his high school classes, but I do recall Flash Thompson, a red-haired white jock. Even conceding this...the source material changes so often that, to me, details like this are meaningless. Marvel isn't as bad as DC, but the stories are still on a drunkard's walk, if you look at em over the course of decades. How many black characters existed *at all* in 1962? Much less Latino, Puerto Rican, Filipino, etc. etc. etc. Those limitations would be completely unreasonable when the story's set today. That's a major change in the underlying premises of the world...and the audience. Introducing friends/expected romantic interests 'earlier than' in the comics is also dictated by the medium. There's only so much time in each movie; the more you want to tell the main story, the less you can move background aspects forward. People want to see MJ or Gwen earlier, rather than later. Similar things with Dr. Strange...how long, in the comics, did it take before we met Wong and Mordo? And I think they adjusted Wong's role a bit. No big deal, to me; it's part of the process of adapting to the medium. Lawnmower Boy, Joe Walsh and drunkonduty 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Watched the first season of What If? Enjoyed that too.... (shrugs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 10:27 PM, unclevlad said: People want to see MJ or Gwen earlier, rather than later. Similar things with Dr. Strange...how long, in the comics, did it take before we met Wong and Mordo? And I think they adjusted Wong's role a bit. No big deal, to me; it's part of the process of adapting to the medium. Wong was Dr Strange's butler in the first story in 63. Mordo was explained when they did Strange's origin. Wong's and Mordo's backstories were filled in as subplots to ongoing crisises CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted January 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Every single time Andrew Garfield lied about being in Spider-Man: No Way Homehttps://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/features/andrew-garfield-spider-man-no-way-home-interviews/ “I think we can all agree that Andrew Garfield is The Moment. This year, the actor will probably earn himself another Oscar nomination in 2022 for his incredible turn as composer Jonathan Larson in Tick, Tick... Boom!, but the role he should actually be getting a nomination for this year? The role of 'Man Desperately Trying To Convince World That He's Absolutely, Categorically, Definitely NOT Returning As Peter Parker In Spider-Man: No Way Home', a character who he so brilliantly portrayed in every single one of his interviews over the past 12 months.“ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted January 6, 2022 Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Bazza said: Every single time Andrew Garfield lied about being in Spider-Man: No Way Homehttps://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/features/andrew-garfield-spider-man-no-way-home-interviews/ “I think we can all agree that Andrew Garfield is The Moment. This year, the actor will probably earn himself another Oscar nomination in 2022 for his incredible turn as composer Jonathan Larson in Tick, Tick... Boom!, but the role he should actually be getting a nomination for this year? The role of 'Man Desperately Trying To Convince World That He's Absolutely, Categorically, Definitely NOT Returning As Peter Parker In Spider-Man: No Way Home', a character who he so brilliantly portrayed in every single one of his interviews over the past 12 months.“ He's the Anti-Tom-Holland. Christopher R Taylor and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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zslane Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Andrew Garfield wasn't very convincing; we all knew he was lying. Is that really an Oscar-worthy performance, even in meme-space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pinecone Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 "Oh he was there!...just too tiny to see..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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