Cygnia Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Sociotard and Grailknight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 Trump Told Meadows to Call Roger Stone and Michael Flynn Day Before Capitol Attack … For Some Strange Reason Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: Very old story -- if you have enough money and connections, any law can be circumvented. The people who have come to expect that are among our biggest problems. Among my people, that's called The Golden Rule: The people who have the gold make the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pariah said: Among my people, that's called The Golden Rule: The people who have the gold make the rules. But that's missing the point. The kid who hit the girl was a 20 year old student. He wasn't a nobody, probably; getting to go to school in the US suggests decent money. But there's nothing I can readily find, that says he's anything significant. Yet the Saudi *government* made it an act of the state to allow him to flee the country to avoid prosecution. This is multiple levels above The Golden Rule, IMO.https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/02/saudi-students-escaping-us-justice-what-we-know-and-dont-know.html Quote To date, The Oregonian/OregonLive has found 17 cases across the U.S. and Canada where university students from Saudi Arabia facing serious criminal charges have disappeared. They include men, from ages 19 to 28 at the time, accused of rape, manslaughter and felony hit-and-run. Some of these cases go as far back as 1988. State and federal officials, including prosecutors, Homeland Security investigators and the FBI, have confirmed that at least eight of these defendants, including three from Oregon, have returned to Saudi Arabia or left North America. Not all of them come from affluent or politically connected families. For example, Abdulrahman Sameer Noorah, accused of killing Portland teen Fallon Smart, was raised by a single mother, a kindergarten teacher, in the Saudi city of Jeddah, according to court records and interviews. So this is pattern and practice. The Saudi government is, by ANY standard of justice, flouting the law routinely. To be sure, trying to call them to the carpet does run afoul of the Golden Rule at the national level; oil is the lifeblood of the economy still. But with that, and all the other issues...blacklisting anything and everything associated with the Saudis looks...pretty darn reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Legal expert uses OSU wrestling scandal to explain ‘hearsay’ to non-lawyer Jim Jordan Grailknight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 6 hours ago, Cygnia said: Trump lunged for steering wheel on Jan. 6, demanded to be taken to Capitol, ex-aide testifies What pops out to me is that Trump did want to join the mob, but not if it meant walking. Ranxerox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 I hope somebody will point out to her that Iran doesn't have separation of church and state. Colorado Rep. Lauren Boebert says she's 'tired of this separation of church and state junk' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Will interracial marriage become illegal in the United States of America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Not while Justice Thomas is on the bench or Senator McConnell is in the Senate, one presumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 I'll be on the lookout for any dubious cardiac episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Apparently strikes can work. Who knew?NSW government backflips on union demands in a bid to end train dispute TrickstaPriest, Lawnmower Boy and Hermit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Cygnia and assault 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 CNN reports that Secret Service agents are willing to dispute the SUV story, and do so under oath. That intern only claimed second hand information about it. Pity. It was a funny story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 It's been disappointing to see right wing media successfully direct the narrative to the irrelevant grabbing-the-wheel story. The man knowingly directed armed insurrectionists to attack the capitol and clearly intended to lead them himself. That almost certainly counts as levying war against the United States. It absolutely counts as seditious conspiracy, and you can tack on any number of obstruction charges for the witness intimidation attempts that happened on Monday. It's not a smoking gun, it's a smoking arsenal. Matt the Bruins, tkdguy, TrickstaPriest and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 I would still like to hear the secret agent;s full account of Trumps behavior/words on that car trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 More bad news that might get lost in the shuffle... Missouri Enacts Strict New Voter Rules and Will Switch to Caucuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 ...and I just checked the voter registry here in OH to see if I was listed. We just had an election back in May, voted with no issue... ...I've been removed. Old Man, Matt the Bruins, Joe Walsh and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Well, the Environmental Protection Agency was nice while it lasted. Supreme Court rules against EPA effort to regulate power plant emissions in major climate suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 33 minutes ago, Cygnia said: ...and I just checked the voter registry here in OH to see if I was listed. We just had an election back in May, voted with no issue... ...I've been removed. That's horrible. I did the same check here just to make sure I was getting mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Pariah said: Well, the Environmental Protection Agency was nice while it lasted. Supreme Court rules against EPA effort to regulate power plant emissions in major climate suit "The Constitution is totally a suicide pact!" Old Man and Joe Walsh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Pariah said: Well, the Environmental Protection Agency was nice while it lasted. Supreme Court rules against EPA effort to regulate power plant emissions in major climate suit It's not the ramifications for climate change that bother me so much as the reasoning that regulatory agencies have no authority to do anything. I reckon the FDA is up next. Joe Walsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, Old Man said: It's not the ramifications for climate change that bother me so much as the reasoning that regulatory agencies have no authority to do anything. I reckon the FDA is up next. I mean, it bothers me because literally everyone is fooling themselves at thinking they are making "the correct financial decision for their retirement" by supporting these policies. Retiring is hard when your grocery bill is higher than rent......... Joe Walsh and Matt the Bruins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, TrickstaPriest said: I mean, it bothers me because literally everyone is fooling themselves at thinking they are making "the correct financial decision for their retirement" by supporting these policies. Retiring is hard when your grocery bill is higher than rent......... Our chain had to dump the first major corn-on-the-cob sale of the summer last week because what with one crop failure or another, Vancouver buyers couldn't get corn anywhere on the continent. Meanwhile, here, our warehouse keeps dumping more cold crops (rappini, chard, kale; also broccoli and cauliflower, but people like those) on us because in this corner of the continent, it is so bizarrely cold and wet. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/california-takes-down-firearms-dashboard-after-gun-owner-data-are-leaked-11656535100 This was not okay. Seriously?! That list includes judges and law enforcement officers home addresses. Very upsetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Iuz the Evil said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/california-takes-down-firearms-dashboard-after-gun-owner-data-are-leaked-11656535100 This was not okay. Seriously?! That list includes judges and law enforcement officers home addresses. Very upsetting. This sort of thing happens more than one would like to think. AZ had the same problem with the 'report election fraud!' site 😕 https://threatpost.com/trump-site-alleging-az-election-fraud-exposes-voter-data/161068/ IIRC there was a story in AZ about voter information being leaked that was apparently only republican voters who voted in person... interesting in how they obtained/figured out that data, IF it was true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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