Political Discussion Thread (With Rules)

[unclevlad]

9 hours ago, wcw43921 said:

'Terror Granny' arrested in Germany over alleged plot to restore Kaiser

 

So did anyone have this on their apocalypse bingo card?  I know I didn't.

 

Considering the details of the 'plot' this group had, I don't see it rising above the comic interlude level.  Just a few...little...gaps in the plan...like, you know, gaps in aged Swiss cheese.  Not the baby stuff, the good stuff.

[wcw43921]

Even the most delusional of characters and ideas can cause damage.  The example of John Hinckley and Ronald Reagan comes to mind, as does the group plotting to kidnap Michigan's Governor Whitmer.  At least the German monarchists, like the potential Whitmen kidnappers, were stopped before they could cause any real harm.

[unclevlad]

Ohhh man.

 

Anyone else see these new ads from a group called Citizens for Sanity?

 

Right-wing fearmongering, straw man arguments, sweeping generalizations.  

 

It might be that I'm watching the ball game on FS1;  since equal time is no longer required, I believe the ads on there, or on Fox (the football games) have been heavily one-sided against the Democrats.  It's possible I'm just blowing off the Democratic ads...they're basically forgettable, whereas the Republican ads grate like fingernails on a slate chalkboard.  But I don't *think* so.  

 

And there's still 3 more weeks to go.  Yeah....it's first Tuesday after first Monday, and Nov. 1st is a Tuesday.  Ugh..............

[csyphrett]

On 10/16/2022 at 6:48 PM, Old Man said:

 

Do you have a link to that report?  Because there's also this report showing that Fox News is directly responsible for killing its viewers during the pandemic.

I don't have a link to the report. I just saw it mentioned on a tube commentator I follow. Editors and Publishers magazine reported that Fox News fails on its checklist of reliable news reporting. One of the staff in another report said Fox News basically can't put people to factcheck because it costs too much money.

CES 

[Old Man]

2 hours ago, csyphrett said:

I don't have a link to the report. I just saw it mentioned on a tube commentator I follow. Editors and Publishers magazine reported that Fox News fails on its checklist of reliable news reporting. One of the staff in another report said Fox News basically can't put people to factcheck because it costs too much money.

CES 

 

Can't afford to fact check, or don't want to fact check?

[Ragitsu]

Question for you folks...

 

...have you ever had a piece of entertainment (e.g., a film or a game) that you enjoyed (or even still presently enjoy) be steadily co-opted by a political movement that you absolutely despise?

[tkdguy]

Are you talking about D&D? There's a lot of acrimony going around, and it's been getting into politics. Even OSR games have been drawn into it to some extent.

[Ragitsu]

I thought you were going to mention Lord of the Rings . However, I had the film Demolition Man in mind.

[Cygnia]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-incredible-mystery-of-how-donald-trump-got-judge-aileen-cannon-in-the-mar-a-lago-case

[death tribble]

On 10/17/2022 at 1:18 PM, wcw43921 said:

'Terror Granny' arrested in Germany over alleged plot to restore Kaiser

 

So did anyone have this on their apocalypse bingo card?  I know I didn't.

I misread this as Tranny Granny at first.

[Old Man]

In depth report on Florida governor DeSantis' kidnapping of Venezuelan asylum seekers in San Antonio and flying them to Martha's Vineyard

 

- “The money is going to be in the Bill Miller [restaurant] near your house. It’s going to be behind the dumpster outside in a white envelope.”

 

- Perla Huerta was employed by Vertol Systems and has since disappeared

 

- Vertol Systems was awarded a $12M contract with Florida for "relocation services"

 

- Vertol Systems has an extensive record of donating to Florida Republicans, including Jay Trumbull Jr, the Florida appropriations committee chair

 

- It is illegal for government contractors to donate to political causes or campaigns

 

[Pariah]

4 hours ago, Old Man said:

- It is illegal for government contractors to donate to political causes or campaigns

 

It's technically not illegal if the government chooses not to prosecute, amiright...?

[Old Man]

22 minutes ago, Pariah said:

 

It's technically not illegal if the government chooses not to prosecute, amiright...?

 

heavy sigh

[csyphrett]

21 hours ago, Old Man said:

 

Can't afford to fact check, or don't want to fact check?

the statement is they didn't want to fact check because it cost too much money and it was easier to make stuff up to propandagize (I don't know if this is a word because spellcheck says it isn't), so both maybe?

CES

[Ranxerox]

30 minutes ago, csyphrett said:

the statement is they didn't want to fact check because it cost too much money and it was easier to make stuff up to propandagize (I don't know if this is a word because spellcheck says it isn't), so both maybe?

CES

 

It is spelled "propagandize".

[Pattern Ghost]

22 hours ago, Old Man said:

Can't afford to fact check, or don't want to fact check?

 

Fact checking just leads to accountability. Can't have that slowing them down!

[BNakagawa]

A judge has found that some of Eastman's emails are not subject to attorney-client privilege due to the Crime-Fraud Exception...

 

[Logan D. Hurricanes]

That was fast. Next!

 

Liz Truss resigns as prime minister after 44 days

[Cygnia]

We need Larry the Cat to take over!

[Pariah]

1 hour ago, Logan.1179 said:

That was fast. Next!

 

Liz Truss resigns as prime minister after 44 days

 

I'd make a crack about England wanting to be like Italy because this is a World Cup year, but Italy's not in the World Cup this time around.

[Cygnia]

[death tribble]

It could not do any worse. This is what happens when you trust a political party and its members to decide who the prime minister should be. And not the electorate. They can continue this game of musical chairs until 2025 when there has to be an election.

[DShomshak]

Huh. My morning paper had an article about Liz Truss defiantly saying she "wasn't a quitter." So much for bravado.

 

On the BBC a day or two ago, I heard an MP snidely say that in the modern Conservative Party, everyone gets to by Prime Minister for 15 minutes.

 

I had been wondering about the "shortest premiership" thing. Yesterday I checked my almanac's list of British PMs and found that several of them lasted less than a year. I was planning to look up the specific lengths today.

 

Dean Shomshak

[Cygnia]

"...doesn't she look tired...?"

[death tribble]

20 minutes ago, DShomshak said:

Huh. My morning paper had an article about Liz Truss defiantly saying she "wasn't a quitter." So much for bravado.

 

On the BBC a day or two ago, I heard an MP snidely say that in the modern Conservative Party, everyone gets to by Prime Minister for 15 minutes.

 

I had been wondering about the "shortest premiership" thing. Yesterday I checked my almanac's list of British PMs and found that several of them lasted less than a year. I was planning to look up the specific lengths today.

 

Dean Shomshak

May and Johnson were just over 3 years in length.

Gordon Brown was nearly 3 years until he lost an election

Edward Heath was nearly 4 years

Harold Wilson's second go round was just over 2 years

Callaghan was just over 3 years

Alec Douglas Hume was just under a year

Antony Eden was about 1.75 years

Churchill's premiership in the 50s was 3 and a half years.

Stanley Baldwin was nearly 2 years

Neville Chamberlain was nearly 3 years

And in succession for under a year in the 1920s we had Bonar Law, Baldwin and Ramsey McDonald

 

Only one of these was caused by death (Bonar Law). And of these Ramsey McDonald, Callaghan, Wilson and Brwon were Labour. The others all Conservative.