Sociotard Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 The kicker is the proposals to sic CPS on parents tolerant of their children transitioning. And not ones openly saying death would be better. Tom Cowan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) I'm not certain my now-deleted comment regarding the aforementioned Montana senator crossed a line, but I suppose we here at least should try to maintain decorum. Edited April 29, 2023 by Lord Liaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Sociotard said: Montana bill sponsor: I prefer my transgender daughter commit suicide rather than allow her to transition Montana's candidate for Mom of the Year, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Desantis Loses His Cool With Reporter Over Guantanamo Torture Claims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Republican Meeting Goes Off the Rails as Ex-Candidate Pulls Gun DShomshak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) They should have had the same gun ban at their meeting as the NRA has at theirs. 10 hours ago, wcw43921 said: Desantis Loses His Cool With Reporter Over Guantanamo Torture Claims The man can't handle the pressure of tough questions. And his overreaction isn't crazy enough to appeal to the crazies, like Trump's. Edited April 29, 2023 by Lord Liaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 That's one of my fantasy replacements for political debates: 10 hour congressional hearings. All the rules of an under-oath hearing, panel of congresspeople chosen by the opposition. Hillary Clinton pulled it off, all potential Presidents should have to. (My others are poker night and blue book essay. Poker night is just the game, with a President table and Vice President table, bringing in third party candidates. Blue book has the candidates sitting quietly in a classroom with university blue books, answering essay questions. Halfway through they swap books and rebut. They can bring a cheat sheet, but the contents of the cheat sheet are published along with the essay responses) Joe Walsh and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 [sarcasm]Yep, definitely demonstrates the 2nd amendment need right there. Responsible gun ownership for the win.[/sarcasm] This kinda stuff really makes me sick. unclevlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sociotard said: That's one of my fantasy replacements for political debates: 10 hour congressional hearings. All the rules of an under-oath hearing, panel of congresspeople chosen by the opposition. You essentially described the Watergate hearings, aside from underselling the run time. I watched them live, and personally, found them gripping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BoloOfEarth said: [sarcasm]Yep, definitely demonstrates the 2nd amendment need right there. Responsible gun ownership for the win.[/sarcasm] This kinda stuff really makes me sick. Quote from that article: "It is the latest in a string of shootings resulting from seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." I'd say drunken neighbor shooting a firearm in his yard in the middle of the night falls out of the scope of "seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." This is exactly what police are for. Even if it's just loud music. Someone's acting out, have people in uniform come out and settle them down. Be safe. Edited April 29, 2023 by Pattern Ghost Iuz the Evil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: Quote from that article: "It is the latest in a string of shootings resulting from seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." I'd say drunken neighbor shooting a firearm in his backyard in the middle of the night falls out of the scope of "seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." This is exactly what police are for. Even if it's just loud music. Someone's acting out, have people in uniform come out and settle them down. Be safe. Why in the heck would you engage with a (likely intoxicated) neighbor firing a gun next door? Call the cops. Literally why we have them, it’s extremely imprudent and obviously that’s not someone you should be approaching at that moment. There are bad people in the world. Be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: I'd say drunken neighbor shooting a firearm in his backyard in the middle of the night Front yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Old Man said: Front yard. Ah, well that changes everything. 😉 Corrected, thanks. Iuz the Evil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 I would say “front yard” is even more of the same thing. Why in the actual heck would you approach that guy? Call the cops. That is the reason they exist. People are not their best selves right now. I get very scary behaviors in the community all the time, we had them before post-pandemic it is increased by a factor of two or three. Suicide, physical altercations, mental health disorders that have significant safety ramifications, homelessness. All are way higher than three or four years ago at a local and regional level. Many are higher nationally (homelessness is not evenly distributed nationally… that’s an entirely different discussion). It’s a scary time, perspectives as to reason - well reasonably minds my differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said: Quote from that article: "It is the latest in a string of shootings resulting from seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." I'd say drunken neighbor shooting a firearm in his yard in the middle of the night falls out of the scope of "seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." This is exactly what police are for. Even if it's just loud music. Someone's acting out, have people in uniform come out and settle them down. Be safe. When it's guns being shot off, I agree. BUT... My area has a dog ownership problem...in that, quite a few dog owners don't train their dogs and/or leave them alone and outside. Periodically on the Nextdoor neighborhood app, people will post about it. It's VERY common to have others say "go talk to them first." They call that being a good neighbor, and calling the cops is being a bad guy. But shooting a gun, yeah, that's already at an unacceptable level for trying to talk to the neighbor. First shot...I'm going WTF.... Second, I'm calling, and far as I'm concerned, this is worth a call to 911. (Come to think, there was one instance where I thought I heard a gunshot...and called 911. They didn't find anything but they didn't mind in the least. And this was...good gosh...30 years ago maybe. Much less now.) Look, I don't know...and honestly, I'm not inclined to find out...if the shots are just shooting into the air...or something else. I DARN sure, as others are saying, am NOT!!!!! stepping outside, potentially to make myself a target. Still, they didn't deserve to get killed for their action. The <bleep> who did it, deserves to fry tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, unclevlad said: It's VERY common to have others say "go talk to them first." They call that being a good neighbor, and calling the cops is being a bad guy. Doesn't matter. Be a bad guy, who cares what some person on a website says? Is the person telling you to "talk to them first" going to pay your medical bills or funeral expenses and take care of your family if you get hurt if you get attacked? I doubt it. The police aren't going to tell the person who called. Let the cops talk to them. They have authority and the trappings of authority. The person is less likely to attack them than they are you. The police are also better equipped to deal with someone that is stupid enough to attack them. Also, why are you expected to be a good neighbor to someone who isn't being a good neighbor to you? 31 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Still, they didn't deserve to get killed for their action. Certainly not. I hope they catch the guy and bring him to justice. Edited April 29, 2023 by Pattern Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonus Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said: Quote from that article: "It is the latest in a string of shootings resulting from seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." I'd say drunken neighbor shooting a firearm in his yard in the middle of the night falls out of the scope of "seemingly normal and even mundane interactions." This is exactly what police are for. Even if it's just loud music. Someone's acting out, have people in uniform come out and settle them down. Be safe. That I can explain. They were Hondurans so calling the cops wasn't a good option for them. Cygnia, Ternaugh and Pattern Ghost 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Ouch! wcw43921, Hermit and Cygnia 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNakagawa Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 given the alarming frequency at which police arrive at the wrong address and shoot to kill, I would be hesitant to summon them to anywhere nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, BNakagawa said: given the alarming frequency at which police arrive at the wrong address and shoot to kill, I would be hesitant to summon them to anywhere nearby. And how often is that? I mean, if you took the ratio of the number of wrongful killings by police responding to the wrong address vs. total calls, what do you suppose that number to be? We'll leave one of my biggest pet peeves with modern policing -- no-knock warrants -- because we're talking about calling police about noisy neighbors ore neighbors shooting guns in their yards, so a different circumstance. My own personal impression is that there's a pretty low risk of anything bad happening. Mostly, the police come out, ID the person, then tell them to be quiet. Or in the case of the guy shooting the gun, could end differently. Better the police handle it than a family get massacred, though. Thanks to Clonus, we know why the victims felt they couldn't call the police. That's another huge issue that needs to be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) North Carolina Supreme Court clears way for partisan gerrymandering Edited April 30, 2023 by tkdguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csyphrett Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 21 hours ago, tkdguy said: North Carolina Supreme Court clears way for partisan gerrymandering That's my state. The Journal has a story on the front page of the fear of the return of HB2. What a stupid unenforceable piece of crap law that was. CES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 22 hours ago, tkdguy said: North Carolina Supreme Court clears way for partisan gerrymandering This is also showing problems with electing the judges to the state Supreme Court...it makes that body just as political as the legislature. Not only did they reverse themselves on the gerrymandering, but also on a photo ID law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina_Supreme_Court All the justices serve staggered 8 year terms. Mind...I rather suspect that every method of determining supreme court justices will run afoul of some problem or another, because the entire political process in this country is so grossly polarized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 There's no political system that will function with justice if those charged with administering it don't behave justly. Tom Cowan, wcw43921, Pariah and 4 others 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Man who lost wife, son in Texas mass shooting tells story Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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