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3 hours ago, Iuz the Evil said:

God forbid Netflix attempt to appeal to a large demographic swath. It’s almost like they’re operating with some sort of profit motive in mind. Shocking. 
 

I just wish they’d do a better job of pandering. Top Gun redux was awesome. More like that works.

 

They're actually trying to appeal to a bunch of little demographic groups, while hoping that they magically get a large demographic swath. The result is a bunch of underwhelming programs, and the occasional cake-based show.

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https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2022/09/18/migrants-massachusetts-human-trafficking-legal-questions-sanctuary-states-derail-asylum/10411260002/

 

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It is clear that this was an intentional attempt to ensure that these migrants were removed, in absentia, when they failed to change their address with the proper agency," she said. "This was a purposeful derailment designed to prevent people from complying with federal immigration policies."

Furthermore, before they boarded the planes, Self revealed, "the migrants were processed by agents of the Department of Homeland Security who listed falsified addresses on the migrants' paperwork. Agents apparently chose random homeless shelters all across the country from Washington to Florida to list the migrants' mailing addresses even when told by the migrants that they have no address in the U.S."

End-run to get asylum seekers rejected?

According to the paperwork provided to them, she said, "the migrants are required to check in with ICE office nearest to the fake address chosen for them by DHS or be permanently removed from the United States, with some of them required to check in" as early as Monday.

"It could not be clearer that this is an attempt to ensure that these people are ordered removed even as they try as hard as they can to comply with the instructions provided to them," Self said. "There is no other reason to list as someone's mailing address a homeless shelter in Tacoma, Washington, when they ship him to Massachusetts. It is sickeningly cruel throwing obstacles in the way people fleeing violence and oppression, some of whom walked through 10 countries in the hopes of finding safety."---

 

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Hmmm. :think:

 

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
― H.L. Mencken, On Politics: A Carnival of Buncombe

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2 hours ago, Cygnia said:

Which prompted a furious editorial in my local paper, the Tacoma News Tribune. Not Happy to see the city being dragged, however incidentally, into DeSantis' sick, sadistic stunt and scheme.

 

Dean Shomshak

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My bloody freaking gosh...............

 

Asylum seekers aren't citizens and they don't have the same rights, but this feels like a conspiracy to violate civil rights.  If not that, there seem to be fraud elements.

 

And since it's involving interstate transport?  It's federal.

 

It's a LONNNNNNNG way to go, but...this could lead to DeSantis' conviction.  His participation seems indisputable.  Under Florida law, a convicted felon can't hold office (among other things.)  This can be restored...but after the sentence is served.  This would NOT preclude a run for President, but one would think that he'd be far, far too easy a target in both the primaries and (if nominated) the general election.

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Oh, piss nuggets.

 

Russia announced a partial mobilization, which means 300,000 reservists.

 

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-717706

 

In better news...

 

On the 17th Russia tried crossing the Dnipro with a barge loaded with soldiers and weapons. Ukraine sank it. On the 19th Russia tried it again. Ukraine sank that one too.

 

I assume Russia has had successes too, that weren't listed, but it still gives me hope.

 

https://en.defence-ua.com/events/ukraines_military_sank_the_second_barge_with_russian_troops_during_their_attempt_to_force_the_dnipro_river-4280.html

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1 hour ago, wcw43921 said:

 

But it isn't about actual truth.  It's about reinforcing a perception.

 

Elsewhere, the in-box this morning had one from NYT, promoting a 30 minute video about the attack on democracy.  I presume it's paywalled, so no link.  The 2 major points:

--voter suppression efforts aren't the #1 issue.  They're anti-democratic, they're probably racist...but their impact is far from clear.  

--the bigger problem is a concerted effort to distort the voting process at its very source...the polling places.  By bringing in poll workers.  Training them to challenge voters *extensively*, to create the perception that widespread voter fraud *is* happening...when the fraud is being performed by the poll workers.  And this is targetable...election results are tallied at the precinct level, so you challenge in heavily Democratic precincts.  There's never been evidence of widespread fraud...so, well, heck, we can't have that, so let's CREATE THE EVIDENCE.  Oh, and of course, it's in all these Democratic districts.  

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1 hour ago, unclevlad said:

--the bigger problem is a concerted effort to distort the voting process at its very source...the polling places.  By bringing in poll workers.  Training them to challenge voters *extensively*, to create the perception that widespread voter fraud *is* happening...when the fraud is being performed by the poll workers.  And this is targetable...election results are tallied at the precinct level, so you challenge in heavily Democratic precincts.  There's never been evidence of widespread fraud...so, well, heck, we can't have that, so let's CREATE THE EVIDENCE.  Oh, and of course, it's in all these Democratic districts.  

 

Yeah, which is going to create more unrest like Jan 6th even if they fail to accomplish their goal 😕

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