Old Man Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Why? Don't forget that obstruction is not a means to an end for these guys--it is the end. Government shut down? Awesome. SCOTUS crippled? Wonderful. Sequestration and defunding? Perfect. Pensions destroyed? Excellent. This is because it's what the base wants. In fact the base wants it so bad that they viciously went after any rep who dared to go along with Boehner's attempts at compromise. Ryan is going to get the same treatment. The wildest blowout election in November still wouldn't clean these saboteurs out of Congress. There is nothing that these people won't do to damage the government. Even Trump's latest complaints about rigged elections, which logically mean that even Trump knows he isn't going to win, serve that purpose by calling the very integrity of our democracy into question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Sympathetic Canadians Have a Message for Americans: You Guys Are Great Netzilla and DasBroot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Anyone seen Iron Sky? One of the sub plots is that 21st Century Nazis provide themes, imagery and rhetoric to promote an American presidential election campaign. Chillingly prophetic, in retrospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 It won't. Obstruction has cost them almost no seats so far -- arguably is keeping their base fired up and keeping them in power. Of course, that would be assuming they didn't lose seats they possibly could have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Good point. A number of previously safely-Republican states appear to be in play now in the race for the White House. It will be interesting to see if that translates to Congressional election outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Good point. A number of previously safely-Republican states appear to be in play now in the race for the White House. It will be interesting to see if that translates to Congressional election outcomes. Quite a few, but that seems to be the direct result of Mr. Grabbyhands, not because of congressional obstruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewing Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 McCain seems to have lost it almost as badly as Pat Robertson lost it many years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasBroot Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Trump has to knock it out of the park in tonight's debate. We're talking Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, or Hitler levels of oration. Clinton needs to bring her A game as well. She's done fine in the debates (not hard - unlike the primaries you can't actually bully or shout your opponent out of the race, and that's all he had going for him) but if he gets desperate and unhinged in the slightest and she delivers the performance of her career the contrast will serve her well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylwin13 Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Trump couldn't deliver that level of performance, even if he actually channeled all three of them tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Madonna makes NSFW promise in support of Clinton campaign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Madonna makes NSFW promise in support of Clinton campaign How old is Madonna now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 Trump has to knock it out of the park in tonight's debate. We're talking Martin Luther King Jr, JFK, or Hitler levels of oration. Clinton needs to bring her A game as well. She's done fine in the debates (not hard - unlike the primaries you can't actually bully or shout your opponent out of the race, and that's all he had going for him) but if he gets desperate and unhinged in the slightest and she delivers the performance of her career the contrast will serve her well. Trump couldn't deliver that level of performance, even if he actually channeled all three of them tonight. Are there really that many undecided voters left to influence? And wouldn't they have pretty much decided to wash their hands of this whole fiasco of a campaign and spend Election Night watching House of Cards reruns? Speaking of which, does anyone have special plans for Election Night? I don't know how much coverage of the tallying up I could stomach, to be honest. So many talking heads doing what talking heads do. So many inane predictions that will be obsolete within fifteen minutes. The probability that Trump will show just what an ass he is when he loses, or when he wins, or when he claims to have won after he loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 How old is Madonna now? Doesn't matter; had sex. Lucius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 How old is Madonna now? Old enough to know better, too old to care, and apparently very experienced in certain areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Speaking of which, does anyone have special plans for Election Night? I I plan to cower under my blanket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shadow Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 How old is Madonna now? 58, a year older than me. And I think she still looks good. I know women a lot younger who wish they looked that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I plan to cower under my blanket. I plan to be in my bunker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I was watching the Youtube feed of the Thomas & Mack Center floor before the debate, and was excited to see former Governor Richard Bryan*, then realized that the camera was actually focused on the idiot in front of him (Scott Baio). *There's a picture in my high school yearbook of me looming over Governor Bryan at the Sun Youth Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm going to be at a party. Woo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'm not watching the debate because sanity, but from what I hear, anyone playing a Trump drinking game is going to wind up in the ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I don't drink, but after watching a little more than an hour of it, I'm thinking about starting. Old Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 I don't understand why it isn't a matter of standard policy that, when one person is speaking, the other person's microphone isn't simply turned off as a matter of course. Netzilla, Enforcer84 and Starlord 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuz the Evil Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Not as good for entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 Supposedly no debate participant would ever agree to that stipulation, but I'm not sure what the rationale is. Anyway, your debate takeaways: "I'll keep you in suspense." "Such a nasty woman." "You're the puppet." *sniff* "I have the greatest respect for women." (widespread audience laughter) "I never apologized to my wife." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 After this election, I never want to see this guy again on my tv screen, my computer screen or my newspaper, until his obituary is run. The only presidential candidate I've actually hated. Bush, I disliked intensely, but it wasn't with the fury of a trillion exploding galaxies. L. Marcus, tkdguy, Doc Shadow and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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