Starlord Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: The world's trying to warn us about COVID-19 in winter — we're just not listening. On the bright side though.... Flu in the Southern Hemisphere has practically disappeared due to Coronavirus restrictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 12:01 PM, Michael Hopcroft said: I resolved the [problem by buying a box of ten reusable cloth masks made by a company famous for its underwear. It's worked out quite well so far -- if I remember, I use a different mask every day and wash masks on a weekly basis. The masks come out wrinkled but still cover what they need to cover. My big problem is forgetting to mask up before going to places, and I almost always remember that I'd forgotten it almost immediately. If possible I go back in and get mine, but my local transit service is willing to offer you a one-use mask if you get on without one. Which is no guarantee that people will use these masks correctly, but then there never is. But I can only control what I do myself. Even if it means getting places later than intended when I decline to get on a bus while unmasked. After a few trips we had to take twice for forgetting masks we've decided to keep a set for the whole family in the car. They have to be washed more often because of the heat, but it has eliminated the "I forgot my mask" problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Because I see this constantly... Leaving your nose uncovered defeats the purpose of wearing a mask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Also, Texas update - Getting better, but still bad. Our R0 is also bad - it's climbed over 1.0 again (1.08) so we're in a growth phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Trump's new COVID cure: Flower Power https://www.axios.com/trump-covid-oleandrin-9896f570-6cd8-4919-af3a-65ebad113d41.html Personally, I just think Trump doesn't realize there's no longer a huge hippie vote in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, archer said: This is scary. FDA has issued its first ever list of shortages of medical supplies due to COVID-19 and the estimated duration of the shortages. https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/medical-device-shortages-during-covid-19-public-health-emergency Makes you think back to all those presidential statements about the abundant supplies of PPE which he has made available nationwide.... Yes, well, we all know his high veracity and reliability. Wouldn't surprise me that a) this kind of thing might well be required by law, but also b) it got pushed through by the science people...even possibly doing an end-run on the political appointees...in part to debunk all the factual errors I also noted in that story, that school openings are being reversed a fair bit. The details appear to be kinda complex; I didn't try all that hard but I couldn't find a story summarizing them. I know it includes Georgia and Arizona, tho. And I saw several colleges doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Being that it's 2020, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump pushed for testing of some whacky cure and it actually turned out to work, thus paving the road for him to be President for Life. Because . . . apocalypse. So, yesterday, I had to go to the ER due to a high fever (had surgery Monday, high fever no bueno). They didn't find anything. Got a third COVID swab (the proper brain-tickler type) inside of a week. I'm starting to get used to the stupid things at this point. ScottishFox and TrickstaPriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 50 minutes ago, archer said: Trump's new COVID cure: Flower Power https://www.axios.com/trump-covid-oleandrin-9896f570-6cd8-4919-af3a-65ebad113d41.html Personally, I just think Trump doesn't realize there's no longer a huge hippie vote in this country. It looks like a quid pro quo to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Oleander?! That stuff's toxic! I highly doubt an extract based off of it is a good idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Hey, lots of stuff used for medication is toxic in large enough doses, but can be beneficial if employed correctly. What would be a bigger warning sign for me is that Trump is pushing it. It rather surprises me that he didn't branch out into snake-oil sales long before this. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Cygnia said: Oleander?! That stuff's toxic! I highly doubt an extract based off of it is a good idea... Many, if not most, drugs are toxic. The issue is dosage; can you get a therapeutic benefit before the toxic effects kick in? That said, oleandrin is fairly toxic, so cutting it down to safe levels seems unlikely to work out. But hey, when has that concerned The Donald? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 *cough* bleach *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 1. Can you build up an immunity to it? 2. Does it come in an odorless, tasteless powder form that dissolves instantly in any liquid? Asking for a friend.... Lord Liaden and Pariah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 ScottishFox, archer, Oruncrest and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/17/opinion/covid-19-heart-disease.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage Still early days but there are some SERIOUSLY alarming signs that heart damage may be COMMON, even in mild cases. The heart damage aspect was mentioned, IIRC, in the discussion about the Big 10's decision making WRT cancelling fall sports. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinecone Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 "You see this Covid, it is a blood pathogen, and then it hit us." "Alcohol kills germs!" "So again wodka is the answer to all problems!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Starlord said: Treatment has no effect on COVID-19, but after it you won't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Starlord said: 1. Can you build up an immunity to it? 2. Does it come in an odorless, tasteless powder form that dissolves instantly in any liquid? Asking for a friend.... It's true that after iocane powder, you're not going to care about COVID-19 anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Starlord said: 1. Can you build up an immunity to it? 2. Does it come in an odorless, tasteless powder form that dissolves instantly in any liquid? Asking for a friend.... 5 minutes ago, Pariah said: It's true that after iocane powder, you're not going to care about COVID-19 anymore. Inconcievable! (I don't think that means what I think it means...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Michael Hopcroft said: (I don't think that means what I think it means...) Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Pariah said: Am I going mad, or did the word THINK escape your lips?! Are you pondering what I'm pondering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperion Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Starlord said: The Russian cure to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 My dad went on an agricultural exchange to Moscow and Leningrad back when it was still the USSR. On the Aeroflot flight, the only beverage served was, of course, vodka. He said they served it in glass shot glasses, which they wiped out with a rag when you were done and then poured another shot for the next person. Apparently the antiseptic properties of the Vodka were sufficient not to require additional cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I might have worries about backwash contamination from sharing the glass, but I wouldn't be concerned about germs if what I'm drinking out of it is 80 proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, Pariah said: My dad went on and agricultural exchange to Moscow and Leningrad back when it was still the USSR. On the aeroflot flight, the only beverage serve was, of course, vodka. He said they served it in glass shot glasses, which they wiped out with a rag when you were done and then poured another shot for the next person. Apparently the antiseptic properties of the Vodka were sufficient not to require additional cleaning. To a degree, sure...but... Remember that the blood alcohol level for DUI is usually about 0.08%. Not 0.8%...0.08%, or less than 1 part in 1000. 0.5%...coma, possible death from cardiac or respiratory failure. Not due to sepsis, either, so this probably won't kill a blood-borne pathogen. Many hand sanitizers are actually just alcohol. 60% is the minimum concentration for it to be effective but that's probably just related to the application involved. And ethanol is fine for it. (The ones the FDA have listed as unsafe, have methanol.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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