Cancer Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Or the businesses that have captured it and enforce rules on those trying to horn in on what they consider to be rightfully theirs and only theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted September 30, 2017 Report Share Posted September 30, 2017 No doubt. Dont know how much I agree the businesses "control" bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is gonna obstruct, its their reason for existence (at least bureacrats think that, or at least it seems the more they obstruct the more they it justifies them having job security) But, businesses dont seem to feel bad about shamelessly taking advantage like a wrestler when the ref is looking the other way. (and even at their cleanest, they can pay people solely for the purpose of dealing with bureaucrats, where smaller businesses don't have such a luxury. Cancer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 1, 2017 Report Share Posted October 1, 2017 Harry Shearer: Why My 'Spinal Tap' Lawsuit Affects All Creators Cancer and pinecone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech priest support Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 In other news geraldo Rivera proves he is still subhuman scum. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/01/defending-trump-geraldo-rivera-debates-the-meaning-of-dying-with-san-juans-mayor/?utm_term=.6acdd10a96dc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 20 dead in Vegas so far. I'm expecting that number to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just read about this on the BBC website. Aside from the number of dead and injured what boggles the mind is opening fire at Country and Western music festival. Rock music and peace protests I would not be surprised at but C+W ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Sending my best wishes out to our Vegas forumites. I hope you and yours are safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianaJoe3 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just read about this on the BBC website. Aside from the number of dead and injured what boggles the mind is opening fire at Country and Western music festival. Rock music and peace protests I would not be surprised at but C+W ? I suspect it was a target of opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Sending my best wishes out to our Vegas forumites. I hope you and yours are safe. I found out about if from a phone call from an out of state relative about 40 minutes ago. I'm O.K., but now it's a bit of a waiting game to find out if anyone I know was affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 My God. There are no words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 The thing is, the usual proposals to reduce shootings wouldn't have done anything for this case. Have more people with Carrry and Conceal permits? He was shooting from a high hotel room. A few pistols on the ground would have done nothing. More profiling? He was a white senior citizen with no criminal record. I'm unaware of any profile he fit. Weapons restrictions? He had 10 guns, enough to not need to reload. He wasn't using any full automatics or anything. I know lots of people with way more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 The thing is, the usual proposals to reduce shootings wouldn't have done anything for this case. Have more people with Carrry and Conceal permits? He was shooting from a high hotel room. A few pistols on the ground would have done nothing. More profiling? He was a white senior citizen with no criminal record. I'm unaware of any profile he fit. Weapons restrictions? He had 10 guns, enough to not need to reload. He wasn't using any full automatics or anything. I know lots of people with way more than that. Well, considering the number of injuries, he reloaded many, many times. A cap on magazine capacity might have slowed the pace of carnage, perhaps. If he was bump firing a semi-auto rifle with a large mag capacity, the net effect would have been pretty similar to firing a full auto weapon. NV has very lax/permissive gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Judging from the audio on some of the recordings, he was using a crank or a bump fire stock on an assault rifle with a drum mag. Reports say the firing continued for up to ten full minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Entirely separate topic here; I don't know this person, but I am familiar with the situation. Adjunct faculty in bad situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enforcer84 Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 The Onion Runs the same headline every time since 2014 Here it is: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens Alibear and Starlord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Judging from the audio on some of the recordings, he was using a crank or a bump fire stock on an assault rifle with a drum mag. Reports say the firing continued for up to ten full minutes. One average old white guy killed 58+ and injured 500+, from 1700 feet away, using (mostly) commercially available firearms. Even if you're staunchly anti-gun control, that's pretty effing sobering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 One average old white guy killed 58+ and injured 500+, from 1700 feet away, using (mostly) commercially available firearms. Even if you're staunchly anti-gun control, that's pretty effing sobering. vaguely similar incident about fifty years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 vaguely similar incident about fifty years ago Fair. But that was 46 dead and injured after 96 minutes of shooting. This was nearly 10x as many casualties/injuries in about 1/10th the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 No argument there. Though in the 1966 event the police did not have the ability to get to the shooter. The Astronomy Department was in a building near the Tower, and the police used the dome of the telescope in that (3-storey, I think) building as shelter from which to pow at him with service revolvers, which were ineffective. Somewhat more than a dozen years later, I listened to people present at the time talk about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 To be fair, the truck attack in Nice killed 86. So just poofing away all the guns wouldn't necessarily stop this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 Tom Petty rushed to hospital after found unconscious in cardiac arrest, report says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 It looks like the story you linked has been updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech priest support Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 This cartoon is years old and gets. More relevant over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech priest support Posted October 2, 2017 Report Share Posted October 2, 2017 This cartoon is years old and gets. More relevant over time. tkdguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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