Lord Liaden Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 You can blame Jack Kirby. He loved those groan-inducing punnish names for his New Gods. Just be thankful they didn't use Virman Vundabar. assault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Cassandra said: I don't understand by they used Steppenwolf. Why couldn't they have KISS, or Nickleback, or Radiohead, a band the public would want to see Superheroes beat up. What, U2? Bazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'd pay extra to watch Nickleback get beat up by the Justice League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech priest support Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I'd be happy to see any superhero beat the snot out of Gene Simmons.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 ...or at least give him a good tongue-lashing! drunkonduty and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 The irony is that they made a KISS movie in the 70's (?) where they played superheroes, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 17 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Green Lantern is definitely missing from the league. Its time for a re attempt at the character, and this time by fans who have read the comic. The Problem lies in the Year 2011. I recently watched it for the first time. I had the material for a good movie, but the totally miss-spent the CGI budget. Resulting in absolutely horribly looking Guardians and Paralax. The training scene was propably one of the best scenes of the movie and even it was only average: But despite all this, a new Green Latern film is planned:https://www.cinemablend.com/new/Green-Lantern-Corps-Movie-May-Have-3-Green-Lanterns-Here-What-We-Know-126597.html 12 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: You can blame Jack Kirby. He loved those groan-inducing punnish names for his New Gods. Just be thankful they didn't use Virman Vundabar. Basically that character is a stupid idea that was actually implemented: What if we had a german WW1+WW2 Officer on Apokolypse? That would have caused cringe effects in the german markets. Plus Steppenwolf is actually physically menacing without needing to pull out Darkside that early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 15 hours ago, Cassandra said: I don't understand by they used Steppenwolf. Why couldn't they have KISS, or Nickleback, or Radiohead, a band the public would want to see Superheroes beat up. Because those groups have got effective lawyers...... And not even a superhero can beat that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Well, the Box Office for the opening weekend was a let down $96M domestic $185.5M overseas With Wonder a surprise hit, Ragnarok still in the theaters, and Coco coming in from Pixar/Disney, Justice League is in deep deep trouble. It has performed under Batman V Superman, and Suicide Squad, which is a shame as it is better than any of them (Yes, I'm sure many will say how can it not be?) Good word of mouth and fan reviews may not be enough to save it by Hollywood standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 Oh I have no doubt that the Green Lantern film weighs heavily on the DC cinema guys. They tried something light-hearted and it ended up horrible. But I've written about this before elsewhere so no need to repeat. Just saying its been long enough a reboot could work now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Hermit said: Well, the Box Office for the opening weekend was a let down $96M domestic $185.5M overseas With Wonder a surprise hit, Ragnarok still in the theaters, and Coco coming in from Pixar/Disney, Justice League is in deep deep trouble. It has performed under Batman V Superman, and Suicide Squad, which is a shame as it is better than any of them (Yes, I'm sure many will say how can it not be?) Good word of mouth and fan reviews may not be enough to save it by Hollywood standards SW 8 is coming out soon too. By comparison, Avengers 1 was the 5th or 6th film in the MCU, and it did nearly triple JL's box office numbers the first weekend. They need to fully abandon the Snyder ethos in subsequent films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think part of the big pull for Justice League was supposed to be Superman coming back but with how they portrayed him and what he was like in the last 2 movies, I'm not sure anyone cared if he was still dead or not. That's probably hurting its chances as well. I suspect, though, that it won't display the usual curve of big hit movies that are really big at first then tail off rapidly. I think word of mouth might keep this one going for a while with modest numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 I would agree with Christopher, I think that WB/DC has not earned the cache with fans that Marvel has, so any movie coming out will be a wait and see for many viewers. If friends/family tell them is good, then the will see it. Will be interesting to see how it does this weekend with Pixar's CoCo coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: I think part of the big pull for Justice League was supposed to be Superman coming back but with how they portrayed him and what he was like in the last 2 movies, I'm not sure anyone cared if he was still dead or not. That's probably hurting its chances as well. It didn't help that the marketing for JL almost completely hid the return of Superman. The many moviegoers who don't have their ear close to the movie or comic industry ground may not have even been aware Superman is in the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: It didn't help that the marketing for JL almost completely hid the return of Superman. The many moviegoers who don't have their ear close to the movie or comic industry ground may not have even been aware Superman is in the film. Pretty sure that was intentional. Thanks to specific cutting, the one scene with Cavill in the Trailers appear to have been "only a dream" by Lois Lane. They did kind of spoil the whole Doomsday thing in BvS, so they might have overcompensated here. Personally not being spoiled by teh trailers realy helps with the enjoyment of the Film. 9 hours ago, megaplayboy said: By comparison, Avengers 1 was the 5th or 6th film in the MCU, and it did nearly triple JL's box office numbers the first weekend. They need to fully abandon the Snyder ethos in subsequent films. What do you mean with "Jack Snyder Ethos"? I mean they need to have something Unique. No way they are going to carve out a space agaisnt the MCU by just Immitating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Christopher said: I mean they need to have something Unique. No way they are going to carve out a space agaisnt the MCU by just Immitating it. I'd be happy if they started imitating the DCAU. Ternaugh, mattingly and Hyper-Man 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st barbara Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Well I enjoyed it. Loved the portrayal of Aquaman. It hasn't done as well as many people hoped at the box office (so far). Perhaps they should ditch Snyder and let Weedon have control of the next film from the start. assault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, Pattern Ghost said: I'd be happy if they started imitating the DCAU. You mean like that time Superman was Brainwashed into thinking he was a pawn of Superman and then send to attack earth? That time the government got so scared of the Justice League, they ended up creating project Cadmus. Wich involved cloning, mindwiping, assasination and a fair share of "broken eggs"? How about the Killing Joke, at whose end Batman was mentally broken by the Joker? People often think the DC Animated Universe never dealt with Grownup stuff. But that is far from the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Christopher said: You mean I mean quality story telling. I don't know what you think I think, but you are almost certainly wrong. 8 minutes ago, Christopher said: People often think the DC Animated Universe never dealt with Grownup stuff. But that is far from the truth. If you're implying that the Snyderverse is dealing with "Grownup stuff," I'd have to say that the execution is so juvenile as to negate any grownup qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaplayboy Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 What I'm saying is that Snyder's a one-trick pony--grim, gritty, bloody, dark spectacles do not a vibrant superhero universe make. They could stand to brighten things up a bit. It doesn't have to "copy" Marvel, but it should mirror the general tone of the comics these characters come from. Superman is not grappling with seeing the difference between right and wrong and figuring out his role in the world. Grailknight, sinanju, pinecone and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said: I mean quality story telling. I don't know what you think I think, but you are almost certainly wrong. If you're implying that the Snyderverse is dealing with "Grownup stuff," I'd have to say that the execution is so juvenile as to negate any grownup qualities. Needs more "forceful sodomy" scenes. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech priest support Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Maybe we could get a LXG animated movie where Mr. Hyde rapes the invisible man to death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattingly Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Pattern Ghost said: I'd be happy if they started imitating the DCAU. Fire everyone, and put Bruce Timm in charge. Armory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yeah I wouldn't give Whedon anything, but Timm definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 The universe tried pretty hard to keep me from seeing this, but I have. It exceeded expectations somewhat. There sure is a lot of Double Knockback in this campaign. pinecone, Hyper-Man and Lawnmower Boy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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