unclevlad Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 And the Republicans are quite good at playing the stalling game, minimizing the window. Plus, that's only one front. The Republicans will continue their efforts to suborn state-level offices. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragitsu Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 5 hours ago, wcw43921 said: This is What "Pro-Life" Looks Like Call them Anti-Choice; take away their (inaccurate and frequently dishonest) marketing. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ragitsu said: Call them Anti-Choice; take away their (inaccurate and frequently dishonest) marketing. You misspelled "forced birth". Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 On an unrelated note, I invite everyone to check in on the defamation trial of Alex Jones, legendary denier of the Sandy Hook shooting, in which his lawyer accidentally sent all his emails and texts to the opposing attorney. The emails and texts that he previously denied existed when asked to provide them to the court. The emails and texts that implicate him in perjury and other criminal wrongdoing, and even involvement in the January 6 insurrection. They also reveal that Jones' conspiracy site, Infowars, was making $800,000 per day. TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ternaugh Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, Old Man said: On an unrelated note, I invite everyone to check in on the defamation trial of Alex Jones, legendary denier of the Sandy Hook shooting, in which his lawyer accidentally sent all his emails and texts to the opposing attorney. The emails and texts that he previously denied existed when asked to provide them to the court. The emails and texts that implicate him in perjury and other criminal wrongdoing, and even involvement in the January 6 insurrection. They also reveal that Jones' conspiracy site, Infowars, was making $800,000 per day. His lawyers were informed of the mistake about the documents, and neglected to make any of it privileged, meaning that all of it is admissible. My favorite quote from this story was the comment picked up on a hot mike made by the opposing attorney during a recess: Quote On an open microphone in a recess, Bankston asked his fellow lawyers: “You know what nobody’s thought about yet? What happens when that phone goes to law enforcement?” TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 So far (from what I understand) J6C, DOJ, and Jones' ex-wife are all seeking to attain the phone records....and I don't think there's anything keeping the parents' lawyers from delivering. TrickstaPriest and Ternaugh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Simon said: So far (from what I understand) J6C, DOJ, and Jones' ex-wife are all seeking to attain the phone records....and I don't think there's anything keeping the parents' lawyers from delivering. So much of what's been happening makes me want to host any of these records that go public. But man, I don't need that legal fracas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TrickstaPriest said: So much of what's been happening makes me want to host any of these records that go public. But man, I don't need that legal fracas. Maybe Unicorn Riot will do it... TrickstaPriest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickstaPriest Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, Cygnia said: Maybe Unicorn Riot will do it... There's a lot of potentially valuable resources out there. A place where people can go through that, for example the open resources on Alex Jones' case, is super helpful. You don't have to present the resources unchallenged, but having the originals there, plus additional commentary, all in a place where people can visit and find compiled information on? Much of it doesn't have to be hosted directly, just linking external resources with local backups if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 hours ago, wcw43921 said: This is What "Pro-Life" Looks Like Not quite sure I follow the logic fully. I can semi-understand (though don't endorse the argument) that the requirement to pay child support may make some men pressure woman to have abortions. However, if men *aren't* required to pay child support for the children for whom they were sperm donors, then wouldn't that be more of an impetus for women to *want* to have an abortion, rather than having a high likelihood of living in poverty? Lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. MID-Nite Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, BoloOfEarth said: Not quite sure I follow the logic fully. I can semi-understand (though don't endorse the argument) that the requirement to pay child support may make some men pressure woman to have abortions. However, if men *aren't* required to pay child support for the children for whom they were sperm donors, then wouldn't that be more of an impetus for women to *want* to have an abortion, rather than having a high likelihood of living in poverty? There you go bringing logic into these things Silly human...logic is for Vulcans.... Pariah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Old Man said: They also reveal that Jones' conspiracy site, Infowars, was making $800,000 per day. You'd think he'd be able to afford a lawyer who knows how to use email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Old Man said: That would be so much cooler if the Democrats weren't almost guaranteed to lose the House in November. Poll Shows Tight Race for Control of Congress as Class Divide Widens Three bright spots for Democrats ahead of the 2022 midterms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranxerox Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 9 hours ago, wcw43921 said: This is What "Pro-Life" Looks Like Apparently, Chris Pritt was not advocating an end to child support. He was speaking against a proposed amendment to the abortion ban bill that would in his words “allow men to file pre-birth paternity actions". So, he was actually objecting to something that men would use to try to weasel out of paying child support. Mr Pritt seems to think that the threat of being forced to take one of these test might drive some women to get abortions, not because they didn't know the father but just because they did not want to go through the test and deal with a guy who would make them take it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 I haven't found a really good news article to link, but if anyone's interested... Two of the Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump come from Washington state. Both were targeted by Trump-backed, full-on wackadoodle Big Lie supporters. Those challengers have failed to advance through Washington's "Top Two" primary system. In November, Reps Jaime Herrerra-Beutler and Dan Newhouse will both face Democratic challengers, as the Trumpians came third. So there's that, at least. Dean Shomshak Tom Cowan, Matt the Bruins, Pariah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShomshak Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 8/2/2022 at 6:55 PM, Ragitsu said: Comparing United States conservatives to the Bolsheviks? Oh...you were serious. Life one-hundred plus years ago was hard in general: technology was all-around inferior and MEDICINE sucked compared to that which is available today. Russia's climate makes for a harsh land; exceptions aside, compared to Russia, the contiguous USA is the Garden of Eden. Politically speaking, the landscape is different; right-wing insurgents will have more foreign allies to contend with. Your standard weathered Bolshevik partisan accustomed to the early 1920s is going to snap a typical 2022 US conservative - used to mass-produced goods and a relative life of luxury - in half. Of course I'm serious. I would not post it if I were not serious. However, I brought up the Bolsheviks only as an example of how a committed, disciplined group of radicals can achieve power without truly representing the popular will. I agree that compared to the likes of Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky, American conservatives are a bad joke. But then, many modern Americans are a lot softer and sillier than were the Russians of the time. American conservatives have also been working at this for a lot longer than the Bolsheviks did. And I am also entirely serious in expecting that post-Trumpian conservatives, should they achieve the House-Senate-White House trifecta again, would become democidally dangerous. I'm sure at first they would follow Viktor Orban's model of "illiberal democracy," in which elections still happen but are so rigged that the opposition can't win. But much of what the base wants isn't politically possible. LGBT+ people are not going back in the closet. Black people will not touch their foreheads and say, "Yassuh," nor accept being addressed as "Boy." The mills will not re-open with plentiful jobs for semi-skilled labor. And many in the base will still feel the scalding sense that the educated, credentialed elites sneer at them. The Republicans will have to turn to repression, then violence, then terror. I would rather avoid this. Since I don't think the country can be put back together again, I think there's value in exploring methods for an amicable separation. Dean Shomshak Joe Walsh and TrickstaPriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 4, 2022 Report Share Posted August 4, 2022 That feeling when Dick Cheney is the voice of reason: Iuz the Evil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 About the Alex Jones' case... Ternaugh and Old Man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Yah, first verdict in: Jones loses, ordered to pay $4M. And the jury didn't take long to get there...deliberating less than a day according to NYT. That part is awesome. How much those parents will ever see...that remains to be seen, as I expect Jones to try more shenanigans to hide his assets. OR, of course, effectively getting handed money under the table. Another story in the NYT today. In light of Kansas' very convincing: 59-41 to keep the right to abortion in the state constitution. NOT terribly surprisingly, it galvanized turnout...very likely to voie against the ballot measure, which would've pulled it. NYT gave a map of other states that may well do the same thing. SOooooo...that got me thinking. The map shows, according to polling, 50-55% of Texans back the right to abortion. Well, now. It would be a SWEET, SWEET smackdown against Abbott if Texans could pass a constitutional amendment. Unfortunately, in order to get onto the ballot...it needs a 2/3 vote of the combined members of both houses of the state legislature. Yeah, that has no chance of happening.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 And in Kentucky, 4 police officers are facing federal charges in the Breonna Taylor shooting. From NYT: Quote Federal prosecutors accused three officers of knowingly including false information in an affidavit used to justify the raid and a fourth officer of firing blindly into Ms. Taylor’s apartment from outside, sending bullets flying into a unit next door where an unsuspecting family slept. It might not go as far as many want, but it's a DARN sight better than letting the officers skate, and letting the state authorities let them skate, on the false information claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Not entirely unexpected. Brittney Griner sentenced to nine years in Russian prison on drug smuggling, possession charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Pariah said: That feeling when Dick Cheney is the voice of reason: When someone is too much of an authoritarian for DICK CHENEY, you know he's gone off the deep end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 I think Cheney is just jealous because he didn't think of it himself. Joe Walsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sociotard Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 Russia is bolstering its ranks with prisoners offered suicide-squad-style sentence reductions. Everybody knows that. Russia is bolstering its ranks with a dad-bod army of men in their 50s and 60s. Old news. Chechens? Mercenaries? Same. So what is new? The possibility of 100,000 North Koreans. https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/100000-north-korean-soldiers-could-be-sent-to-bolster-putins-forces-fighting-ukraine/news-story/1126782c8c5e6fe08a8ad2d9fa38dff0 Fresh, well trained troops are known for changing the course of a war. This is North Korea. How fresh, well trained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted August 5, 2022 Report Share Posted August 5, 2022 UPS Refuses to Install Air Conditioning in 150-Degree Delivery Trucks Ragitsu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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