Starlord Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Tjack said: I thought of something last night...when was the last time you heard of somebody having a cold? Nobody in my family’s had one all summer. There are several articles out there about flu cases in the southern hemisphere being way down due to Coronavirus precautions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I'm too busy dealing with my allergies as well to notice. 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, Cygnia said: Oh, this ain't good... AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine study put on hold due to suspected adverse reaction in participant in the U.K. No, on balance I think this is good. This is why we have studies of new medications before releasing them to the general public. Many risks don't show up until more subjects are exposed to the med. Personally, I'm comforted and reassured that AstraZeneca caught this and initiated an investigation. They should take the time and effort to get it right the first time. ScottishFox and Grailknight 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Yeah, it's fine. Potential vaccines require FAR more rigorous testing, because they'll be offered to...well...basically everyone. And most won't be sick at the start, and most wouldn't get the underlying disease, so adverse reactions are a major problem. Vaccine testing usually takes an age and a half because the approach *is* to be very cautious. The severity of Covid-19 is such that they're probably moving into clinical trials earlier than normal in the process, but this is going to happen often enough that there's a well-established protocol (as noted in the article) and things aren't stopped. Perhaps the vaccine recipient had an unknown condition that interacted badly; the vaccine candidate isn't automatically going to be scrapped. This is just good medical practice. Grailknight, Matt the Bruins and BarretWallace 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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death tribble Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 You can only have 6 people in a meeting in the UK as restrictions are brought in against Covid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 20 hours ago, Cygnia said: Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Is Now Linked to More Than 250,000 Coronavirus Cases Yeah, we're not containing this thing. It's so contagious we need close to 100% compliance with safety protocols and we're just not going to get that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death tribble Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 [sarcasm mode on] But But Motorbikes cannot spread disease ! This is just prejudiced against bikers [/sarcasm mode off] BarretWallace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Leather and chrome are superspreaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 It's not so much the leather and chrome as the idiocy, which has a large Venn diagram overlap with people who like to put multiple riders atop a high performance engine with no protective frame and race down the highways ignoring traffic laws. Cygnia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matt the Bruins said: It's not so much the leather and chrome as the idiocy, which has a large Venn diagram overlap with people who like to put multiple riders atop a high performance engine with no protective frame and race down the highways ignoring traffic laws. Hey! Motorcycles are only dangerous because of other people, like drivers. And advertisers, for making billboards that you can run into. And road engineers, for putting the road right where you'll hit it when you fall off your bike. And Isaac Newton, for inventing that stupid "gravity." Without those guys, motorcycles would be safe as houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 If by 'houses', you mean log cabins near power lines during California summer...then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hopcroft Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottishFox said: Yeah, we're not containing this thing. It's so contagious we need close to 100% compliance with safety protocols and we're just not going to get that. America in particular has a cultural issue with authority. Look at how many times evil government agencies figure in our fiction, film, TV, and gaming. Nobody trusts anyone. I know I certainly have trust issues when it comes to certain things, and a lot of people have trust issues about different things. Then there are the people who believe, unlike the star of the cartoon Eek! the Cat, that "it always hurts to help." In a lot of ways we did this to ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 https://www.sciencealert.com/the-most-common-pain-relief-drug-in-the-world-induces-risky-behaviour-study-finds Some news articles are speculating that people acting rashly by not wearing masks or observing social distancing with acetaminophen usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Bruins Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I get bristling at "Hey, you can't swim in this creek! It's government land!" or something similar and defying the rules. But when your dispute is with the laws of motion or mathematics (as in progression of infectious diseases), you shouldn't expect to win many arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishFox Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Texas numbers are holding up better than expected. I thought last week would wreck us, but perhaps we'll need another week or two for the mass influx of school related cases to pop up. Took awhile, but we finally got our R0 below 1.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, archer said: https://www.sciencealert.com/the-most-common-pain-relief-drug-in-the-world-induces-risky-behaviour-study-finds Some news articles are speculating that people acting rashly by not wearing masks or observing social distancing with acetaminophen usage. I smell a future legal defense brewing in this research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnia Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I have to conclude Trump really is too stupid to comprehend the implications of what comes out of his mouth. Let alone saying it knowing it's being recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: I have to conclude Trump really is too stupid to comprehend the implications of what comes out of his mouth. Let alone saying it knowing it's being recorded. There could be another explanation... (courtesy of Alex Marino) [Trump walks into Oval Office alone. Shuts door. We hear a whoosh from off camera] TRUMP: I don’t get it Al, why haven’t I leaped!? AL: Stay at it, Sam. Ziggy says there’s a 95% chance you’re here to get this guy impeached. TRUMP: WHAT MORE COULD I POSSIBLY DO!? Ternaugh, Tom Cowan, Pariah and 2 others 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: I have to conclude Trump really is too stupid to comprehend the implications of what comes out of his mouth. Let alone saying it knowing it's being recorded. On the contrary, I think he knows it and revels in the unwillingness of anyone in power to do something about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 But then, why would he issue denials of the quotations in the book, before it was even released to the public? To me that sounds like someone in the West Wing got hold of a preview of the book, and explained to Trump, in small words, how much trouble he'd caused himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclevlad Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Guys, we're in Coronavirus, not Political. ScottishFox, Lord Liaden, tkdguy and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoloOfEarth Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, unclevlad said: Guys, we're in Coronavirus, not Political. You're right. My apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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